Full installation every time?

[bruce]

Try this:

While your machine is folding, open FileExplorer and type %APPDATA% in the "quick access" field (including the %-signs). Open the folder called FAHClient and the file called log. Post the first few screens of that file.

(If this doesn't work, ask for more help. This works on my "normal" machine. Now that I've figure that out, I'll go try it on my new Win10 machine that's also needing a reinstall every time.)

[bruce]

OK. I tried it from my own machine. What I discovered is that there is no FAHClient folder in the %APPDATA% folder. It's actually in a similar directory belonging to the admin account on this machine. I believe Win10 made some kind of change that broke the FAH installer. I'm going to open a bug ticket on this issue unless there's already one there.

[bruce]

Here's my scenario. See if it matches yours.

My system has an administrative ID ("<admin>") and a non-administrative ID ("<me>").

If I'm logged on as "me" when I install, the installer asks me for the password associate with "admin" and the installation proceeds and FAH starts running.
If I'm logged on as "admin" when I install, the installation also proceeds and FAH starts running.

In both cases, FAH's data is stored in a directory called C:\Users\<admin>\AppData\Local\FAHClient This is a bug. In fact, the data should be stored in C:\Users\<me>\AppData\Local\FAHClient

This is very much like the known issue where the installer asks if you want to install just for me or for all users.

Also, there should be a startup script ("shortcut") that points to the place where the data is actually stored.

On my previous installs, there are two differences.
1) I've used Windows7
2) My personal ID ('me") happens to also be an administrative ID, so the installer does not ask me for a password, it just wants me to confirm that I'm authorizing Windows to use my administrative credentials.

I don't yet know if the bug is associated with 1) or with 2). I only know that if I install on "admin" and then try to run on "me" it always fails.

A temporary Work-Around for this problem may be possible but the only long-term solution is to fix the problem in FAH's Windows Installer.

[Keff]

An update on my situation. I installed FAH when I was logged in to a standard account, which I almost always use. Yesterday, I stopped folding and rebooted my computer. I logged in as the administrator and imaged my disk. When I was done, I looked in the tray and found that FAH was running. No reinstall necessary. When I logged out of the admin account, folding stopped. So now I just leave it running in the admin account.

[bruce]

Is this the same machine you talked about earlier? CPU only? Did you install FAH as a service?

... or is this on "your" machine?

I have successfully managed to reproduce the full installation problem and work out a potential work-around on one of my Windows10 machines but I need to see the first part of the log so I know what kind of an install we're talking about.

[Keff]

Yes, this is on "my" machine, the one i first posted about, CPU and GPU. I'm on a laptop now, but I'll post the first part of my log shortly.

[Keff]

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20:08:14:      Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
20:08:14:    Copyright: (c) 2009-2014 Stanford University
20:08:14:       Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
20:08:14:         Args: --open-web-control
20:08:14:       Config: <none>
20:08:14:******************************** Build ********************************
20:08:14:      Version: 7.4.4
20:08:14:         Date: Mar 4 2014
20:08:14:         Time: 20:26:54
20:08:14:      SVN Rev: 4130
20:08:14:       Branch: fah/trunk/client
20:08:14:     Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1200
20:08:14:      Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /Qdiag-disable:4297,4103,1786,279 /Ox -arch:SSE
20:08:14:               /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qopenmp /Qrestrict /MT /Qmkl
20:08:14:     Platform: win32 XP
20:08:14:         Bits: 32
20:08:14:         Mode: Release
20:08:14:******************************* System ********************************
20:08:14:          CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700 CPU @ 3.40GHz
20:08:14:       CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 94 Stepping 3
20:08:14:         CPUs: 8
20:08:14:       Memory: 15.94GiB
20:08:14:  Free Memory: 12.72GiB
20:08:14:      Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
20:08:14:   OS Version: 6.2
20:08:14:  Has Battery: false
20:08:14:   On Battery: false
20:08:14:   UTC Offset: -7
20:08:14:          PID: 8800
20:08:14:          CWD: C:/Users/Keff/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient
20:08:14:           OS: Windows 10 Home
20:08:14:      OS Arch: AMD64
20:08:14:         GPUs: 0
20:08:14:         CUDA: 5.2
20:08:14:  CUDA Driver: 8000
20:08:14:Win32 Service: false
20:08:14:***********************************************************************
20:08:14:<config>
20:08:14:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
20:08:14:</config>
20:08:14:Connecting to assign-GPU.stanford.edu:80
20:08:15:Updated GPUs.txt
20:08:15:Read GPUs.txt
20:08:15:Trying to access database...
20:08:15:Successfully acquired database lock
20:08:15:Enabled folding slot 00: PAUSED cpu:6 (not configured)
20:08:15:Enabled folding slot 01: PAUSED gpu:0:GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] (not configured)
20:08:18:8:127.0.0.1:New Web connection
20:09:16:Saving configuration to config.xml
20:09:16:<config>
20:09:16:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
20:09:16:  <slot id='0' type='CPU'/>
20:09:16:  <slot id='1' type='GPU'/>
20:09:16:</config>
20:09:16:Set client configured
20:09:16:WU00:FS00:Connecting to 171.67.108.45:8080
20:09:16:WU01:FS01:Connecting to 171.67.108.45:8080
20:09:16:WU00:FS00:Connecting to 171.67.108.45:8080
20:09:16:WU01:FS01:Connecting to 171.67.108.45:80
20:09:17:WU00:FS00:Assigned to work server 171.67.108.158
20:09:17:WU00:FS00:Requesting new work unit for slot 00: READY cpu:6 from 171.67.108.158
20:09:17:WU00:FS00:Connecting to 171.67.108.158:8080
20:09:17:WU01:FS01:Assigned to work server 140.163.4.245
20:09:17:WU01:FS01:Requesting new work unit for slot 01: READY gpu:0:GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] from 140.163.4.245
20:09:17:WU01:FS01:Connecting to 140.163.4.245:8080
20:09:17:WU01:FS01:Downloading 6.04MiB
20:09:17:WU00:FS00:Downloading 807.87KiB
20:09:18:WU00:FS00:Download complete
20:09:18:WU00:FS00:Received Unit: id:00 state:DOWNLOAD error:NO_ERROR project:9032 run:696 clone:2 gen:309 core:0xa4 unit:0x00000166ab436c9e5698328b09382349
20:09:18:WU00:FS00:Downloading core from http://web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah
20:09:18:WU00:FS00:Connecting to web.stanford.edu:80
20:09:18:WU00:FS00:FahCore a4: Downloading 2.89MiB
20:09:23:WU01:FS01:Download 50.72%
20:09:24:WU00:FS00:FahCore a4: 82.24%
20:09:24:WU00:FS00:FahCore a4: Download complete
20:09:24:WU00:FS00:Valid core signature
20:09:24:WU00:FS00:Unpacked 9.59MiB to cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe
20:09:24:WU00:FS00:Starting
20:09:24:WU00:FS00:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Keff/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 8800 -checkpoint 15 -np 6
20:09:24:WU00:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 11004
20:09:24:WU00:FS00:Core PID:2708
20:09:24:WU00:FS00:FahCore 0xa4 started
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:*------------------------------*
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations...
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Created dyn
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Files status OK
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Expanded 826742 -> 1398024 (decompressed 169.1 percent)
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=826742 data_size=1398024, decompressed_data_size=1398024 diff=0
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Digital signature verified
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Project: 9032 (Run 696, Clone 2, Gen 309)
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Assembly optimizations on if available.
20:09:25:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Entering M.D.
20:09:27:WU01:FS01:Download complete
20:09:27:WU01:FS01:Received Unit: id:01 state:DOWNLOAD error:NO_ERROR project:10493 run:0 clone:12 gen:330 core:0x21 unit:0x000001a98ca304f555d61659e1e6699e
20:09:27:WU01:FS01:Downloading core from http://web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/NVIDIA/Fermi/Core_21.fah
20:09:27:WU01:FS01:Connecting to web.stanford.edu:80
20:09:27:WU01:FS01:FahCore 21: Downloading 3.47MiB
20:09:31:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Mapping NT from 6 to 6 
20:09:31:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0%)
20:09:32:WU01:FS01:FahCore 21: Download complete
20:09:32:WU01:FS01:Valid core signature
20:09:32:WU01:FS01:Unpacked 11.81MiB to cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/NVIDIA/Fermi/Core_21.fah/FahCore_21.exe
20:09:32:WU01:FS01:Starting
20:09:32:WU01:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Keff/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/NVIDIA/Fermi/Core_21.fah/FahCore_21.exe -dir 01 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 8800 -checkpoint 15 -gpu 0 -gpu-vendor nvidia
20:09:32:WU01:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 7860
20:09:32:WU01:FS01:Core PID:8856
20:09:32:WU01:FS01:FahCore 0x21 started
20:09:33:WU01:FS01:0x21:*********************** Log Started 2016-11-12T20:09:32Z ***********************
20:09:33:WU01:FS01:0x21:Project: 10493 (Run 0, Clone 12, Gen 330)
20:09:33:WU01:FS01:0x21:Unit: 0x000001a98ca304f555d61659e1e6699e
20:09:33:WU01:FS01:0x21:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
20:09:33:WU01:FS01:0x21:Machine: 1
20:09:33:WU01:FS01:0x21:Reading tar file core.xml
20:09:33:WU01:FS01:0x21:Reading tar file system.xml
20:09:33:WU01:FS01:0x21:Reading tar file integrator.xml
20:09:33:WU01:FS01:0x21:Reading tar file state.xml
20:09:34:WU01:FS01:0x21:Digital signatures verified
20:09:34:WU01:FS01:0x21:Folding@home GPU Core21 Folding@home Core
20:09:34:WU01:FS01:0x21:Version 0.0.17
20:09:44:WU01:FS01:0x21:Completed 0 out of 5000000 steps (0%)
20:09:44:WU01:FS01:0x21:Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900
20:10:43:36:127.0.0.1:New Web connection
20:10:46:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps  (1%)
20:12:07:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps  (2%)
20:12:18:58:127.0.0.1:New Web connection
20:13:22:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps  (3%)
20:14:21:Saving configuration to config.xml
20:14:21:<config>
20:14:21:  <!-- User Information -->
20:14:21:  <passkey v='********************************'/>
20:14:21:  <user v='Keff'/>
20:14:21:
20:14:21:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
20:14:21:  <slot id='0' type='CPU'/>
20:14:21:  <slot id='1' type='GPU'/>
20:14:21:</config>
20:14:36:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps  (4%)

[Keff]

I used the code format in the previous message, but it doesn't look that great. If someone could tell me how to do it better, I'd appreciate it.

I completely uninstalled FAH, then reinstalled it. It did require my admin permission to install.

[bruce]

That's the way a code block is supposed to look.

Did you start running FAH from Windows User Keff? I don't think you'll need to reinstall again, but we won't know until you try it.

[Keff]

I installed it while in Keff. I just quit it, and there's no icon in the tray. There is an icon on the admin desktop and one in the admin account's tray. So I can run it in the admin. account without reinstalling, but not in the standard account. So it's being installed in the admin account . . .

[bruce]

OK. I'm convinced that the installer that has worked on previous version of Windows no longer works correctly in Windows 10.

Create three new shortcuts on your desktop. Call one 1FAHControl.
Start in: C:/Users/Keff/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient
Target: "C:/Program Filess\FAHClient\FAHControl.exe"

That should open the Advanced Control program. Does it show the active threads?

Call another one 1FAHData
Both the target and the start in should be set to C:/Users/Keff/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient

Create a third shortcut called 1FAHClient
Start in: (same as above)
Target: "C:\Program Files\FAHClient\HideConsole.exe" "C:\Program Files\FAHClient\FAHClient.exe"

The latter won't work if FAH is already running. It needs to be put wherever the startup programs are found. It's late and I'll have to figure out where Windows10 puts that tomorrow.

[bruce]

There should be (at least) two files in c:/Users one using the name of your administrator and the other using the name of your everyday (non-admin) user. In the above shortcuts, I've assumed that Keff is your everyday user.

I apologize for not finishing these instructions tonight....too tired and I'd like to get it right.

[Keff]

Thanks. Yes, Keff is the standard account I use almost all the time. I'll follow your instructions and let you know how it works.

[Keff]

The 1FAHControl shortcut just opens the folder FAHClient folder (This PC > Windows (C:) > Users > Keff > AppData > Roaming > FAHClient. Same for IFAHData. I can't specify "C:\Program Files\FAHClient\HideConsole.exe" "C:\Program Files\FAHClient\FAHClient.exe" as a target.

Nevertheless, I'm still folding.

[bruce]

Ok. That's useful information.

On WIndows7, there were two types if installations, one of which placed the files in
C:/Users/<admin>/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient and the other which places them in
C:/Users/<non-admin>/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient
I believe Windows10 messed up that differentiation.

Since the ones I gave you contained "Keff" (i.e. <non-admin>) you can probably make everything work by replacing each occurrence of "Keff" with the name of you <admin> account. That worked for me, with no need to modify any security settings.

Now I'll have to figure out how to get the systray icon to work for you.