are other people using the data after main papers is out?

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are other people using the data after main papers is out?

Postby beer » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:33 pm

Hi

Please correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know then each WU is tied to one project that leads to a paper. Is there other people using the result after the main paper is out? Or is it just stored and never used again? If someone else is using the result then who are those people?
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Re: are other people using the data after main papers is out

Postby bruce » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:53 pm

There's no way to answer that question accurately. That's sort of like asking if anybody is using the Pythagorean Theorem or Newton's Laws (or more recent scientific results). Once a scientific principle is discovered and published, anybody can use it without notifying the author unless the result is protected by a patent.

There have been some other results that did mention using a result published in a FAH paper.
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Re: are other people using the data after main papers is out

Postby beer » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:25 am

There is 2 way to track it:
1: the number of citation is paper is getting (is there an easy way to see that for each paper that the panda group has made?)
2: to my knowlage then each WU is stored on stanford server. And if people want to access them for future research then they need to ask permission for the access to those WU. My main question is that have people asked for access for the data for data that we generate after the main papers is out? Is a WU only used in one paper?
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Re: are other people using the data after main papers is out

Postby Joe_H » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:56 am

In his Where Can I Learn More post, Dr..Pande gave links that list papers, and the how often they have been cited by other papers. For the list of papers - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=pande++vs. For the list by how many times others papers have cited them - https://scholar.google.com/citations?us ... AAAJ&hl=en.
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Re: are other people using the data after main papers is out

Postby beer » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:53 am

I am not an expert but it looks like the publication is cited a lot (which mean that people are using the papers a lot).

I am still wondering if the data we generate (WU's) is only used once for one paper or if they are used for multiply of papers?
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Re: are other people using the data after main papers is out

Postby 7im » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:53 pm

Usage is mixed. Some data is reused as a basis to look deeper in to a problem, some as basis to look at a tangential problem, some data only gets used once. But in general, folding has been a cumulative process, gaining knowledge and gaining speed getting more knowledge. One might recall the FAH Blog posts how new modeling enabled significant jumps in processing speed.
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Re: are other people using the data after main papers is out

Postby bruce » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:35 pm

Consider the differences between somebody using the conclusions in the paper and somebody use the raw data of the trajectories that are made up of a series WUs. The conclusions are likely to be fairly general and be used by others (often with citation references in other papers). The raw data is needs to be available to validate the original conclusions and pr5obably won't be needed after that.
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Re: are other people using the data after main papers is out

Postby Joe_H » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:33 pm

Postings I recall reading by Dr. Pande have mentioned that some data sets are publicly available, I came across mention of some being on simtk.org for download. The rest are available upon request by another researcher. I don't know if PG keeps stats on how often this happens, perhaps they might answer if asked on the official reddit.
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Re: are other people using the data after main papers is out

Postby road-runner » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:26 pm

The way the drug companies are gouging people now days needs to be a way to collect part of the pie if they use the data we crunch...
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