FAHViewer: in/dependence of "snapshot cycling" & "rotation"?

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FAHViewer: in/dependence of "snapshot cycling" & "rotation"?

Postby YosiMor » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:36 pm

As a volunteer folder with only a general understanding of protein-folding and the GROMACS simulation software used by FAH, I wanted to ask the following (newbie?) question:

Is there any reason why, in the FAHViewer program, the "snapshot cycling" feature seems to not be fully independent of the "rotation" feature?

From what I understand, each of the 100 cycles simulated for a given WU represents a visual snapshot of the given protein's folding conformation (relative to itself) at that given timestamp. And thus, as FAHViewer cycles through the currently-completed snapshots cycles, one can generally see the various atoms, side-chains, and segments of the simulated molecule(s) move or at least wiggle with respect to the model's 3D volume bounding box.

However, the current (v7.6.13) version of FAHViewer seems to cycle through snapshot cycles only while its "rotation" functionality is currently enabled. Specifically, when the protein is rotating, one can press the "0" key to toggle-off the snapshot-cycling. (BTW: instead of just freezing the snapshot-cycling at its current cycle, it jumps to the currently-highest-numbered cycle and freezes the cycling there.) But the other way around, if one presses the spacebar to toggle-off the rotation, the snapshot-cycling also freezes, even though I see no reason why it shouldn't be able to continue "in place," without any rotation. And pressing the "+" key ("increase snapshot cycle rate") does not jump-start the snapshot-cycling, as I might have hoped. Likewise, if one unchecks the "Cycle Snapshots" checkbox in the FAHControl Preferences, then not only does the snapshot-cycling freeze, but also the rotation.

Is there any reason for snapshot-cycling to really be dependent on rotation? I would think not, and that any current dependence is simply an artifact of the current implementation. And the fact that one can drag the mouse to manually rotate any given snapshot-cycle to any desired 3D orientation, independent of the current angle of the automated rotation mechanism, only strengthens my feeling that these two visualization parameters are, in reality, inherently orthogonal.

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Re: FAHViewer: in/dependence of "snapshot cycling" & "rotati

Postby Brad_C » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:08 am

The space bar actually pauses all animation. Should be listed better on the help screen. To just stop the default rotation, press the left arrow twice.
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Re: FAHViewer: in/dependence of "snapshot cycling" & "rotati

Postby YosiMor » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:37 am

Brad_C wrote:The space bar actually pauses all animation. Should be listed better on the help screen. To just stop the default rotation, press the left arrow twice.


Wow, thanks!

So, just to summarize, what you are really suggesting, and what I have verified as actually achieving what I wanted (to stop all automated rotation but to still continue the snapshot-cycling) is to use the left/right and/or up/down arrows to decrease and ultimately STOP all components of automated rotation.

(It's not necessarily just the left arrow, because the protein might be spinning clockwise on its Y-axis, in which case the right arrow will slow that down. And it's not necessarily pressing that arrow only twice, because that rotational component might have been previously speeded up beyond the normal, initial, speed. Finally, the up/down arrows should be used accordingly, in case the protein is (also) spinning along its X-axis.)

I had played with the "+" and "-" keys to control the snapshot cycle rate, but had not thought of playing with the arrow keys to control the rotational speeds!
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