184XX series work units assigned to slow CPUs

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Re: 184XX series work units assigned to slow CPUs

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Joe_H wrote:In general though, your 4417U is limited by being a 2 core CPU with 4 threads available through HT. Also as a Pentium Intel has not enabled AVX support on the processor which makes a significant difference in processing speed.
Ah, forgot to check AVX and SSE support. The i5-5250M does have AVX, so although they have similar benchmark scores for regular instructions, it makes sense that the 4417U would be slower. I only fold on 2 threads too.
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Re: 184XX series work units assigned to slow CPUs

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Mod: merged material from other post on this problem - j

Is anybody having issues with this work? I hit 28 % and it sped up to 10 hours remaining and a bit ago it just went back to 25% and it is now saying 3.2 days to complete.UGH sorry I am new to this board and I just realized I should have posted this in a different thread.
DavidCChapman wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:41 pm I've also seen this problem, running on a 7-year-old AMD FX-6300 with 6 processors (not using the GPU - it's too cheap to run F@H). Earlier this week I had a work unit expire; the log has been purged so I don't know the project number. This morning a work unit for project 18416 was assigned. Initial TPF was estimated at 57 minutes, jumping to 1 hour, 15 minutes after the first fold. ETA is 5.00 days now (2012-10-02T19:40:05Z) with an expiration of 2021-10-06T18:22:47Z, so it will expire too.

I hate to waste CPU cycles, so some tuning on the F@H side would be appreciated. :)

The log so far is:

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13:42:48:WU00:FS00:Starting
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\cores/cores.foldingathome.org/win/64bit-avx-256/a8-0.0.12/Core_a8.fah/FahCore_a8.exe -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 10384 -checkpoint 15 -np 6
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 2296
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:Core PID:11204
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:FahCore 0xa8 started
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:*********************** Log Started 2021-10-02T13:42:48Z ***********************
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:************************** Gromacs Folding@home Core ***************************
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Core: Gromacs
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Type: 0xa8
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:    Version: 0.0.12
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:     Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:  Copyright: 2020 foldingathome.org
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Homepage: https://foldingathome.org/
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Date: Jan 16 2021
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Time: 11:56:07
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Revision: c5816759c404e4b65f9f364c3d1ef554a67c4225
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:     Branch: master
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Compiler: Visual C++ 2019 16.7
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:    Options: /TP /std:c++14 /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Platform: win32 10
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Bits: 64
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Mode: Release
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       SIMD: avx_256
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:     OpenMP: ON
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       CUDA: OFF
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Args: -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 2296 -checkpoint 15 -np 6
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:************************************ libFAH ************************************
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Date: Jan 16 2021
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Time: 11:24:13
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Revision: c5816759c404e4b65f9f364c3d1ef554a67c4225
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:     Branch: master
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Compiler: Visual C++ 2019 16.7
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:    Options: /TP /std:c++14 /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Platform: win32 10
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Bits: 64
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Mode: Release
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:************************************ CBang *************************************
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Date: Jan 16 2021
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Time: 11:23:53
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Revision: c5816759c404e4b65f9f364c3d1ef554a67c4225
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:     Branch: master
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Compiler: Visual C++ 2019 16.7
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:    Options: /TP /std:c++14 /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:   Platform: win32 10
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Bits: 64
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       Mode: Release
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:************************************ System ************************************
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:        CPU: AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:     CPU ID: AuthenticAMD Family 21 Model 2 Stepping 0
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:       CPUs: 6
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:     Memory: 15.90GiB
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Free Memory: 13.09GiB
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:    Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8: OS Version: 6.2
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Has Battery: false
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8: On Battery: false
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8: UTC Offset: -7
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:        PID: 11204
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:        CWD: C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\work
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:********************************************************************************
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Project: 18416 (Run 45, Clone 1, Gen 4)
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Unit: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Reading tar file core.xml
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Reading tar file frame4.tpr
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Digital signatures verified
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Calling: mdrun -c frame4.gro -s frame4.tpr -x frame4.xtc -cpt 15 -nt 6 -ntmpi 1
13:42:48:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Steps: first=40000000 total=50000000
13:42:52:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Completed 1 out of 10000000 steps (0%)
14:57:47:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Completed 100000 out of 10000000 steps (1%)
16:12:50:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Completed 200000 out of 10000000 steps (2%)
******************************* Date: 2021-10-02 *******************************
17:28:21:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Completed 300000 out of 10000000 steps (3%)
18:47:53:WU00:FS00:0xa8:Completed 400000 out of 10000000 steps (4%)
I am having issues with this work order also. It did exactly like you said. Working on it all day on ryzen 5 3600 and now I'm back at 28.5% with 3 days remaining.
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Re: 184XX series work units assigned to slow CPUs

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If you could provide information on exactly what you did, as the advice given a year ago to the poster you quoted was for a much different processor. Also post the first 100 lines of your log and included the section where you see this problem. Direction on how to post a go are included in the Welcome to the Forum topic - viewtopic.php?t=26036
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Re: 184XX series work units assigned to slow CPUs

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So,after all being well since my last post I have just received WU 18810 that I have absolutely no chance of completing in time. Is there any way to bale from these WU's and use my laptop for something useful?
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Re: 184XX series work units assigned to slow CPUs

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southofnonorth wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:48 pm So,after all being well since my last post I have just received WU 18810 that I have absolutely no chance of completing in time. Is there any way to bale from these WU's and use my laptop for something useful?
F@H allows you to dump a work unit if you can't finish it before the deadline.

To do that, pause the work unit, note the ID of the appropriate slot (if you have more than one) and close the client if wanted.
Go to start menu
Folding@home
Data Directory
Work

Once there, delete the folder that is the same as the work ID in your Work Queue. Then restart F@H and you should pick up another work unit.


Have you tried setting your threads down to 2 yet as suggested earlier in this thread? Though F@H allows dumping of work units it is highly suggested to either reconfigure to allow assignments that will finish, or if needed to quit folding on that hardware if it struggles to meet deadlines on a regular basis.
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Re: 184XX series work units assigned to slow CPUs

Post by southofnonorth »

Thanks very much for that info - I have dumped the WU and also set to 2 threads
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Re: 184XX series work units assigned to slow CPUs

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southofnonorth wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:53 pm Thanks very much for that info - I have dumped the WU and also set to 2 threads
Hopefully going to 2 threads might help you get lower priority or less intensive work units that give you enough time to complete. As a bonus, you will have more system resources available for your use, as well as lower fan speeds and power consumption.

If it doesn't help with deadlines, then chances are likely that the hardware on that machine is nearing end of life for use folding. But you could still get some use out of it if you're creative.
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