Very few points for WU 8011

[Jimbert]

I have an I7 960, 3.2GHz quad core (8 threads). According to Version 7.1.43 of the Folding client, I am only getting 164 points for this unit, which took 34 hours to complete. That is compared to thousands of points for other units that I have folded. For 164 points, I might as well turn off my computer and save the power. Other 8011 units have gotten even worse credit, less than 100.

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12:43:38:WU01:FS01:Received Unit: id:01 state:DOWNLOAD error:OK project:8011 run:3 clone:2054 gen:106 core:0xa4 unit:0x000000b66652edcc4efd7f2e139311f8
13:05:52:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps  (100%)
13:05:52:WU00:FS01:0xa4:DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Finished Work Unit:
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:- Reading up to 895524 from "00/wudata_01.trr": Read 895524
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:trr file hash check passed.
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:- Reading up to 530612 from "00/wudata_01.xtc": Read 530612
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:xtc file hash check passed.
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:edr file hash check passed.
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:logfile size: 30888
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Leaving Run
13:06:02:WU00:FS01:0xa4:- Writing 1462428 bytes of core data to disk...
13:06:03:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Done: 1461916 -> 1385815 (compressed to 94.7 percent)
13:06:03:WU00:FS01:0xa4:  ... Done.
13:06:04:WU00:FS01:0xa4:- Shutting down core
13:06:04:WU00:FS01:0xa4:
13:06:04:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
13:06:04:WU00:FS01:FahCore returned: FINISHED_UNIT (100 = 0x64)
13:06:04:WU00:FS01:Sending unit results: id:00 state:SEND error:OK project:8011 run:0 clone:104 gen:81 core:0xa4 unit:0x000000896652edcc4efd788c681e9e50
13:06:04:WU00:FS01:Uploading 1.32MiB to 171.67.108.60
13:06:04:WU00:FS01:Connecting to 171.67.108.60:8080
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:Starting
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Jim/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/www.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe -dir 01 -suffix 01 -version 701 -checkpoint 15 -np 8
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 6048
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:Core PID:6696
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:FahCore 0xa4 started
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:*------------------------------*
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations...
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Created dyn
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Files status OK
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Expanded 567275 -> 1367528 (decompressed 241.0 percent)
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=567275 data_size=1367528, decompressed_data_size=1367528 diff=0
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Digital signature verified
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Project: 8011 (Run 3, Clone 2054, Gen 106)
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Assembly optimizations on if available.
13:06:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Entering M.D.
13:06:10:WU00:FS01:Upload 56.73%
13:06:10:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Mapping NT from 8 to 8 
13:06:11:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0%)
13:06:14:WU00:FS01:Upload complete
13:06:14:WU00:FS01:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
13:06:14:WU00:FS01:Final credit estimate, 164.00 points
13:06:14:WU00:FS01:Cleaning up
13:29:37:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps  (1%)
13:52:39:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps  (2%)
14:14:09:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps  (3%)
14:32:12:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps  (4%)
14:40:26:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps  (5%)
14:59:34:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps  (6%)
******************************** Date: 27/02/12 ********************************
15:22:34:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 17500 out of 250000 steps  (7%)
15:38:37:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 20000 out of 250000 steps  (8%)
15:47:26:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 22500 out of 250000 steps  (9%)
16:08:14:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 25000 out of 250000 steps  (10%)
16:21:46:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 27500 out of 250000 steps  (11%)
16:44:58:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 30000 out of 250000 steps  (12%)
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17:26:49:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 35000 out of 250000 steps  (14%)
17:46:19:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 37500 out of 250000 steps  (15%)
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18:25:37:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 42500 out of 250000 steps  (17%)
18:49:19:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 45000 out of 250000 steps  (18%)
19:12:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 47500 out of 250000 steps  (19%)
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20:16:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 55000 out of 250000 steps  (22%)
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20:53:27:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 60000 out of 250000 steps  (24%)
21:03:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 62500 out of 250000 steps  (25%)
******************************** Date: 27/02/12 ********************************
21:24:48:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 65000 out of 250000 steps  (26%)
21:48:05:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 67500 out of 250000 steps  (27%)
22:09:15:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 70000 out of 250000 steps  (28%)
22:34:06:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 72500 out of 250000 steps  (29%)
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23:21:35:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 77500 out of 250000 steps  (31%)
23:47:47:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 80000 out of 250000 steps  (32%)
00:12:04:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 82500 out of 250000 steps  (33%)
00:36:30:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 85000 out of 250000 steps  (34%)
01:06:25:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 87500 out of 250000 steps  (35%)
01:22:18:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 90000 out of 250000 steps  (36%)
01:36:20:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 92500 out of 250000 steps  (37%)
01:59:31:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 95000 out of 250000 steps  (38%)
02:23:23:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 97500 out of 250000 steps  (39%)
02:41:52:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 100000 out of 250000 steps  (40%)
03:03:20:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 102500 out of 250000 steps  (41%)
******************************** Date: 28/02/12 ********************************
03:26:09:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 105000 out of 250000 steps  (42%)
03:53:12:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 107500 out of 250000 steps  (43%)
04:09:40:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 110000 out of 250000 steps  (44%)
04:33:29:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 112500 out of 250000 steps  (45%)
04:54:06:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 115000 out of 250000 steps  (46%)
05:14:20:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 117500 out of 250000 steps  (47%)
05:35:55:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 120000 out of 250000 steps  (48%)
06:00:49:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 122500 out of 250000 steps  (49%)
06:26:29:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 125000 out of 250000 steps  (50%)
06:46:14:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 127500 out of 250000 steps  (51%)
07:11:59:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 130000 out of 250000 steps  (52%)
07:32:32:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 132500 out of 250000 steps  (53%)
07:51:54:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 135000 out of 250000 steps  (54%)
08:17:13:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 137500 out of 250000 steps  (55%)
08:44:15:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 140000 out of 250000 steps  (56%)
09:06:21:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 142500 out of 250000 steps  (57%)
******************************** Date: 28/02/12 ********************************
09:28:14:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 145000 out of 250000 steps  (58%)
09:51:20:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 147500 out of 250000 steps  (59%)
10:09:20:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 150000 out of 250000 steps  (60%)
10:31:09:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 152500 out of 250000 steps  (61%)
10:51:19:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 155000 out of 250000 steps  (62%)
11:14:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 157500 out of 250000 steps  (63%)
11:36:34:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 160000 out of 250000 steps  (64%)
11:53:10:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 162500 out of 250000 steps  (65%)
12:06:51:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 165000 out of 250000 steps  (66%)
12:32:00:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 167500 out of 250000 steps  (67%)
12:53:17:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 170000 out of 250000 steps  (68%)
13:14:30:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 172500 out of 250000 steps  (69%)
13:38:21:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 175000 out of 250000 steps  (70%)
13:58:25:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 177500 out of 250000 steps  (71%)
14:21:31:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 180000 out of 250000 steps  (72%)
14:35:02:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 182500 out of 250000 steps  (73%)
14:55:43:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 185000 out of 250000 steps  (74%)
15:15:43:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 187500 out of 250000 steps  (75%)
******************************** Date: 28/02/12 ********************************
15:39:14:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 190000 out of 250000 steps  (76%)
15:57:05:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 192500 out of 250000 steps  (77%)
16:18:13:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 195000 out of 250000 steps  (78%)
16:45:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 197500 out of 250000 steps  (79%)
17:06:25:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 200000 out of 250000 steps  (80%)
17:21:43:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 202500 out of 250000 steps  (81%)
17:42:21:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 205000 out of 250000 steps  (82%)
18:03:46:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 207500 out of 250000 steps  (83%)
18:25:35:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 210000 out of 250000 steps  (84%)
18:49:02:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 212500 out of 250000 steps  (85%)
18:58:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 215000 out of 250000 steps  (86%)
19:16:26:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 217500 out of 250000 steps  (87%)
19:40:08:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 220000 out of 250000 steps  (88%)
20:04:11:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 222500 out of 250000 steps  (89%)
20:21:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 225000 out of 250000 steps  (90%)
20:25:20:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 227500 out of 250000 steps  (91%)
20:37:15:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 230000 out of 250000 steps  (92%)
20:44:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 232500 out of 250000 steps  (93%)
21:10:06:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 235000 out of 250000 steps  (94%)
21:33:25:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 237500 out of 250000 steps  (95%)
******************************** Date: 28/02/12 ********************************
21:58:48:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 240000 out of 250000 steps  (96%)
22:24:39:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 242500 out of 250000 steps  (97%)
22:48:10:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 245000 out of 250000 steps  (98%)
23:14:09:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 247500 out of 250000 steps  (99%)
23:14:09:WU00:FS01:Connecting to assign3.stanford.edu:8080
23:14:09:WU00:FS01:News: Welcome to Folding@Home
23:14:09:WU00:FS01:Assigned to work server 171.67.108.60
23:14:09:WU00:FS01:Requesting new work unit for slot 01: RUNNING smp:8 from 171.67.108.60
23:14:09:WU00:FS01:Connecting to 171.67.108.60:8080
23:14:10:WU00:FS01:Downloading 613.68KiB
23:14:12:WU00:FS01:Download complete
23:14:12:WU00:FS01:Received Unit: id:00 state:DOWNLOAD error:OK project:8011 run:2 clone:816 gen:74 core:0xa4 unit:0x0000007a6652edcc4efd7c90471abd45
23:39:34:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps  (100%)
23:39:34:WU01:FS01:0xa4:DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
23:39:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
23:39:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Finished Work Unit:
23:39:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Reading up to 801456 from "01/wudata_01.trr": Read 801456
23:39:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:trr file hash check passed.
23:39:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Reading up to 475428 from "01/wudata_01.xtc": Read 475428
23:39:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:xtc file hash check passed.
23:39:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:edr file hash check passed.
23:39:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:logfile size: 30884
23:39:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Leaving Run
23:39:47:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Writing 1313172 bytes of core data to disk...
23:39:48:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Done: 1312660 -> 1244393 (compressed to 94.7 percent)
23:39:48:WU01:FS01:0xa4:  ... Done.
23:39:48:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Shutting down core
23:39:48:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
23:39:48:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
23:39:49:WU01:FS01:FahCore returned: FINISHED_UNIT (100 = 0x64)
23:39:49:WU01:FS01:Sending unit results: id:01 state:SEND error:OK project:8011 run:3 clone:2054 gen:106 core:0xa4 unit:0x000000b66652edcc4efd7f2e139311f8
23:39:49:WU01:FS01:Uploading 1.19MiB to 171.67.108.60
23:39:49:WU01:FS01:Connecting to 171.67.108.60:8080
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:Starting
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Jim/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/www.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 701 -checkpoint 15 -np 8
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 10112
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:Core PID:10188
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:FahCore 0xa4 started
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:*------------------------------*
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations...
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:- Created dyn
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:- Files status OK
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:- Expanded 627899 -> 1492924 (decompressed 237.7 percent)
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=627899 data_size=1492924, decompressed_data_size=1492924 diff=0
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:- Digital signature verified
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Project: 8011 (Run 2, Clone 816, Gen 74)
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Assembly optimizations on if available.
23:39:49:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Entering M.D.
23:39:55:WU01:FS01:Upload 68.44%
23:39:55:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Mapping NT from 8 to 8 
23:39:56:WU00:FS01:0xa4:Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0%)
23:39:58:WU01:FS01:Upload complete
23:39:58:WU01:FS01:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
23:39:58:WU01:FS01:Final credit estimate, 164.00 points
23:39:58:WU01:FS01:Cleaning up

Jim

[Joe_H]

What else are you running on your computer while processing the Project 8011's? The time they are taking on your computer is not typical. On my 2.8 i7 with SMP-8 I am seeing frame times of about a minute, and total run time of about 1:40 to 1:45. You may see a better throughput with SMP set to 4 or 6 depending on what else your computer is doing.

[Ravage7779]

Yeah you got something going on...a c2d gets about 2:30-3min a frame...love those units.

[PinHead]

definately resource starved. Do you have other instances running, GPU, etc.

This will make you a bit sick so sit down.

Single core P4 2.8 ( no HT ) with 512MB memory did 4mn 15sec TPF.


Project : 8011
Core : Gromacs 4 GB
Frames : 100
Credit : 106


-- Win_P4_28 --

Min. Time / Frame : 4mn 15s - 1230.60 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 4mn 15s - 1230.60 ppd
No Cur. Time / Frame
No R3F. Time / Frame
No Eff. Time / Frame

[Jesse_V]

It has been my observation that over the last week or two, project 8011 has consistently had unusually low PPD. On my 2600K @ 4.4 GHz the TPF is about 35 seconds. Using http://linuxforge.net/bonuscalc2.php that's 24,338 PPD, which is about 10k lower than what I usually get and what's expected for the 2600K at my clock. I realize that number crunching is really what it's all about, but the big drop in PPD is a bit discouraging...

[Jimbert]

I seems to be better after rebooting. An 8011 unit completed in about 7 hours, for 360 points. The new 8011 unit is 18% done and has a TPF of 1min 16sec. I'm not sure why rebooting helped but I guess there must have been some process hung-up hogging CPU cycles, although when I quit Folding, the CPU meter didn't show anything unusual. Maybe there is a bug in the Folding client. I will just have to keep an eye on things and reboot more often.

[bruce]

Joe_H has asked the right question:

What else are you running on your computer while processing the Project 8011's?

The speed at which a SMP project proceeds (TPF) has nothing to do with a bug in the Folding client. The client simply starts FahCore_a4 which does all the work. You're running FahCore_a4:Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010) so nothing has changed recently.

SMP is very sensitive to the number of threads that are available to it. If you configure for SMP:8 and then start another application that consistently uses CPU time (say you allocate one CPU to BOINC or you start a FAH Uniprocessor client or you start an AMD GPU, any one of which will constantly use one of your 8 threads) the SMP process will run at approximately half speed, rather than a speed of 87% as fast (which you might expect since it's asking for 8 threads but you're only providing it with 7 CPUs.

Assuming you have other processes which use a measurable amount of CPU time CONSTANTLY it's much better to leave yourself some headroom and reduce the SMP:8 to maybe SMP:6 or whatever it needs to be so that FahCore_a4 can get access to all the threads it wants (almost) all of the time. Do not set the value to the maximum number of CPUs that it might get, set the value to the minimum number of CPUs that it will be able to get on a consistent basis.

I'm not sure why rebooting helped but I guess there must have been some process hung-up hogging CPU cycles, although when I quit Folding, the CPU meter didn't show anything unusual. Maybe there is a bug in the Folding client. I will just have to keep an eye on things and reboot more often.

I'm glad that it seems to be better after rebooting. If this ever happens again, look for a task that is hogging CPU cycles before you reboot so you'll know what happened. Rebooting more often doesn't help you find and cure the fundamental issue.