Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

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Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby billford » Sat May 31, 2014 3:23 pm

Could a mod please check project:9102 run:33 clone:24 gen:30 for me please, my numbers don't add up.

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13:47:00:WU01:FS00:0x17:Completed 2500000 out of 2500000 steps (100%)
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13:47:10:WU01:FS00:0x17:Saving result file logfile_01.txt
13:47:10:WU01:FS00:0x17:Saving result file checkpointState.xml
13:47:11:WU01:FS00:0x17:Saving result file checkpt.crc
13:47:11:WU01:FS00:0x17:Saving result file log.txt
13:47:11:WU01:FS00:0x17:Saving result file positions.xtc
13:47:13:WU01:FS00:0x17:Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
13:47:13:WU01:FS00:FahCore returned: FINISHED_UNIT (100 = 0x64)
13:47:13:WU01:FS00:Sending unit results: id:01 state:SEND error:NO_ERROR project:9102 run:33 clone:24 gen:30 core:0x17 unit:0x0000001e0a3b1e81537c171d69c7a284
13:47:13:WU01:FS00:Uploading 9.40MiB to 171.64.65.93
13:47:13:WU00:FS00:Starting
13:47:13:WU01:FS00:Connecting to 171.64.65.93:8080
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13:49:32:WU01:FS00:Upload complete
13:49:32:WU01:FS00:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
13:49:32:WU01:FS00:Final credit estimate, 28588.00 points
13:49:32:WU01:FS00:Cleaning up
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby Joe_H » Sat May 31, 2014 3:32 pm

When was this WU sent, earlier today or another day? At this point the WU has not yet been entered into the stats database, so there is no information on it yet.
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby billford » Sat May 31, 2014 3:36 pm

Earlier today:

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10:18:11:WU01:FS00:Received Unit: id:01 state:DOWNLOAD error:NO_ERROR project:9102 run:33 clone:24 gen:30 core:0x17 unit:0x0000001e0a3b1e81537c171d69c7a284
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby P5-133XL » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:57 am

I do not see it in the database. It should be there by now.

Project leader notified.
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby billford » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:45 am

Any news on this WU, even that it's lost and I can stop checking whether or not it's been credited?

(I guess the same will apply to the other missing P9102 here)
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby P5-133XL » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:26 am

I was told by the project leader that he would check to see what happened to it. Nothing new to report.
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby billford » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:35 am

OK, fair enough.

I was wondering- when a returned WU doesn't get added to the database, is it just a points issue or does it stall the progress of that particular trajectory until it's located/times out?
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby P5-133XL » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:26 am

I have no idea, my assumption is that the database for points is separate from the research data but I do not know being that is just my assumption.
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby billford » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:30 am

That's an honest answer and makes two of us, thanks :D
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby bollix47 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:41 am

The next Gen (project:9102 run:33 clone:24 gen:31) has been completed successfully. That would suggest that the science is progressing.
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby billford » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:47 am

That's how I anticipated it would work, thanks.
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby 7im » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:37 pm

billford wrote:That's how I anticipated it would work, thanks.


Noting that this work unit is not 0,0,0 or 1,1,1 but 33,24,30 one could easily conclude the work continues. And since fah has been running for 10+ years, and completed billions of work units, I'm sure they long ago figured out not to make sending out the next WU independent of the crediting of points from the previous WU.

Sometimes you can answer your own question if you take that question and ask just the opposite one. If the opposite question seems blatantly ridiculous, then smart people like PG already answered it long ago.
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby billford » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:08 pm

Like I said, that's how I thought it would work.

But when something is based on assumptions (however obvious they may seem) it never does any harm to obtain confirmation.

You may feel differently of course.
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby PantherX » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:44 pm

FYI, detailed knowledge of the Server infrastructure is only known to a handful of PG Members. Administrators/Moderators don't know those details. Instead, we observe the behavior of the Servers and make educated guesses. Thus, the best confirmation you can get is your observation fits our educated guess (unless a PG Member steps in and clarifies it).

Do note that an overview of the Servers is present here (viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17794) which may be slightly dated but is still a good gist. Do note that the WU Servers (Work/Collection) are different from the Stats Server. That way, when Stats are down, folding carries on as normal and once the Stats are back online, points are credited in batches until all the backlog is cleared.
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Re: Project: 9102 (Run 33, Clone 24, Gen 30)

Postby billford » Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:29 pm

Thanks, I'd read the server overview some time ago- I like to know how the things I'm using work. And what to do when they don't, as far as possible :wink:

That basically covers what happens when a WU is sent out and how it gets back when completed. I fully understand that what happens to it after it's returned is of nobody's concern outside PG and I've no intention of asking for any detail, certainly not beyond the broad query I raised.

If even that was a little too far then I apologise.
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