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Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 6:19 pm
by bruce
Crashed, or simply paused/restarted? Show us a segment of the log showing what happened.

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 6:22 pm
by Jandska
OK, this can take a while...it was maybe a month ago :D

EDIT: I guess the logs are not archived that long, because I can't find any older than 22nd April 2020 in the usual folder

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:53 pm
by PantherX
Generally speaking, the last 16 logs are saved. A new log is created upon a client restart so if you have restarted your system more than 16 times, it would have been deleted.

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 7:12 pm
by NRT_AntiKytherA
From the MOONSHOT description it was a test to see if F@H worked okay with that type of unit, so I was kind of surprised to see my system folding them as I don't have advanced flag set and am not in the beta program. I guess I qualified for the testing phase purely because of my GTX1080ti which incidentally managed to complete them okay, albeit some units took longer to fold than 'normal' units on this hardware.

It doesn't really bother me too much but given what I have been reading today about the beta program participation I thought I'd mention it and try to seek some clarity.

Are such experimental units commonly rolled out the the public WU level? I'm new to F@H having only used BOINC previously so still learning how you operate here.

I wouldn't mind being a beta contributor at some point in the future but obviously I am too new here as of yet and have more to learn about F@H control and client before I could contribute anything worthwhile. In the meantime I am willing to set the advanced flag if you need more testers with my hardware, otherwise I'll leave it be. Please let me know either way, thanks.

EDIT - Got another of these 13405 tasks tonight, it still says testing in the description so is it really meant to be a public work task or not? I know it's been fast-tracked but maybe the project description needs revising. As it's now on FAH rather than Beta or ADV then surely it is release ready and no longer a test?

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 11:27 pm
by JohnChodera
We've had to checkpoint these WUs every 25% due to some limitations in the core, but we're working to remedy those ASAP in a forthcoming core release so we can checkpoint closer to 5%.

Thanks for bearing with us!

~ John Chodera // MSKCC

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 11:29 pm
by Joe_H
NRT_AntiKytherA wrote:Are such experimental units commonly rolled out the the public WU level? I'm new to F@H having only used BOINC previously so still learning how you operate here.

They have been announced as being released to all folding clients - viewtopic.php?f=24&t=35063&p=332176

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 11:45 pm
by NRT_AntiKytherA
Fine, the description is what confused matters for me, I'm slightly autistic if you hadn't already guessed as much. So when I see testing I question such things. Thanks for your patience and not berating me for a silly question.

Testing new core22 release v0.0.5 for our ability to roll out extremely large scale relative binding free energy calculations in support of the COVID Moonshot.

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:19 am
by Joe_H
To my way of thinking, unasked questions are the silly ones.

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:55 am
by PantherX
NRT_AntiKytherA wrote:...Got another of these 13405 tasks tonight, it still says testing in the description so is it really meant to be a public work task or not? I know it's been fast-tracked but maybe the project description needs revising. As it's now on FAH rather than Beta or ADV then surely it is release ready and no longer a test?

Generally speaking, regardless of the description, you will be assigned points to WUs that you're folding for 99.90% of the time. the 0.1% would be human/technology error if the WUs were released/rewareded with zero points. AFAIK, that hasn't happened and the closest one was where the bonus points were not assigned but the base points were assigned. That was several years ago when some WUs got bonus points while others didn't. Nowadays, all WUs get bonus points.

NRT_AntiKytherA wrote:...Thanks for your patience and not berating me for a silly question...

This sums it nicely for me:
Japanese - Kikuwa ittoki-no haji, Kikanuwa matudai-no haji
English (translated) - To ask a question is a shame of a moment. Not to ask the question is a shame (regret) that lasts for your whole (eternal) life.

I encourage asking questions on all levels for the sake of learning :eugeek:

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 9:30 am
by Neil-B
I thought for a moment you had typed "... for the saki of learning" :lol:

Re: 13405 (328, 43, 2) went from 45% to 25%

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 9:44 am
by PantherX
Neil-B wrote: "... for the saki of learning" :lol:

Getting drunk on knowledge... I like that, gotta try that once the lock down is lifted and businesses open up :lol: