Project 13413

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Project 13413

Postby pylgrym » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:08 am

My GPU just completed WU 0x0000000012bc7d9a5ee9acd50f164299 (r/c/g: 342/14/0) for this project. No complaints, but the points assigned seems a bit generous, the ppd rate is about 25% above my usual maximum. I don't think it's done a successful unit that fast before.

Also, should the project cause be covid-19 rather than unspecified?

Kind regards

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Re: Project 13413

Postby PantherX » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:01 am

Welcome to the F@H Forum pylgrym,

According to this (https://apps.foldingathome.org/wu#proje ... =14&gen=00 you seem to have been credited with correct points. Please note that Project 13413 are experimental in nature since they are focused towards COVID-19 research, specifically the Moonshot project (https://foldingathome.org/2020/05/28/th ... -moonshot/). On a less powerful GPU, WUs from that project would be able to fully saturate it since it only has 4,082 atoms which may result in a higher PPD. If in doubt, you can post your log file for us to investigate. If you require help for posting the log file, please review this topic: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=26036
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Re: Project 13413

Postby JohnChodera » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:01 pm

Thanks for the heads up! I've updated the cause in the Project Description!

We've seen a lot of heterogeneity in the PPD for this project, but are working on benchmarking all GPUs on a range of projects to better refine PPD calculations.

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Re: Project 13413

Postby uyaem » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:39 pm

pylgrym wrote:My GPU just completed WU 0x0000000012bc7d9a5ee9acd50f164299 (r/c/g: 342/14/0) for this project. No complaints, but the points assigned seems a bit generous, the ppd rate is about 25% above my usual maximum. I don't think it's done a successful unit that fast before.

Also, should the project cause be covid-19 rather than unspecified?

Kind regards

Mark

What GPU are you using? :)
I see about 15% lower PPD on the 134xx projects (albeit, I have yet to receive a 13413).
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Re: Project 13413

Postby HaloJones » Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:39 am

Generous? not for my TitanX which is at about 60% of normal points per day with these
1x Titan X, 5x 1070, 1x 970, 1 x Ryzen 3600

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Re: Project 13413

Postby BobWilliams757 » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:03 pm

Vega 11 returned well above average PPD return on 13413, my highest ever PPD on 13409, but low PPD on 13408.

I just fold them either way, but this thing seems to thrive on the smaller atom count WU's. I really want to pick up a Project 16908. It's only 2500 atoms, smaller than any other WU right now, and it's a GPU project.



As far as you guys with the power cards that are only getting lower returns on some projects.... just be glad it's a short term thing since they complete quickly. When I get a WU my stuff struggles with, it's a 24 hour thing, so that PPD return is literally the points for the 24 hour period. I think 13413 was the quickest time period of any WU I've had, but even that was at almost two hours. :lol:
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Re: Project 13413

Postby JohnChodera » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:43 pm

I don't see Vega 11 in GPUs.txt. What species is this? 5?

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Re: Project 13413

Postby Joe_H » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:47 pm

JohnChodera wrote:I don't see Vega 11 in GPUs.txt. What species is this? 5?

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Depending on when added, it may show as a Vega 8 or Vega 10 mobile. AMD uses the same device ID for these as they are the same chip. The 8 and 10 have some of the shaders present on the Vega 11 disabled.

The first identification of the device and its ID was used in GPUs.txt.

Edit: This is probably the entry:

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0x1002:0x15dd:1:5:Raven [Ryzen vega 8 mobile]


There is a later version installed in the 4000 series Ryzen processors that identifies as "Renoir".
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Re: Project 13413

Postby bruce » Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:51 pm

We get a lot of complaints that "FAH mis-identifies my GPU" but I have not found a good answer except to say AMD identified many GPUs with a single hardware ID and FAH doesn't change the performance depending on which name is used.
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Re: Project 13413

Postby BobWilliams757 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:22 am

JohnChodera wrote:I don't see Vega 11 in GPUs.txt. What species is this? 5?

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19:51:53:WU00:FS01:Requesting new work unit for slot 01: RUNNING gpu:0:Raven [Ryzen vega 8 mobile]
......snipped.......
20:04:16:WU00:FS01:0x22:        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G with Radeon Vega Graphics
20:04:16:WU00:FS01:0x22:     CPU ID: AuthenticAMD Family 23 Model 17 Stepping 0
20:04:16:WU00:FS01:0x22:       CPUs: 8
20:04:16:WU00:FS01:0x22:     Memory: 14.93GiB
20:04:16:WU00:FS01:0x22:Free Memory: 10.58GiB
20:04:16:WU00:FS01:0x22:    Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS


IIRC the newer Picasso chips are the same way, with one device ID covering several different APU models.

If it's of any help, Project 13413 was one of only a couple projects I've noticed that didn't use 100% GPU utilization. I think it was in the 85% range, with CPU use slightly higher than normal. Usually with this small onboard graphics setup GPU utilization goes to 100% and memory allocation adjusts based on the size of the project.

From my understanding the Vega 8 and 10 just disable cores as Joe H mentioned, but some of the newer Picasso APUs also run at higher stock clock speeds. So the Vega 8, 10, and 11 should be fairly similar in performance across the chips that now use them.
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Re: Project 13413

Postby pylgrym » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:33 am

uyaem wrote:
pylgrym wrote:My GPU just completed WU 0x0000000012bc7d9a5ee9acd50f164299 (r/c/g: 342/14/0) for this project. No complaints, but the points assigned seems a bit generous, the ppd rate is about 25% above my usual maximum. I don't think it's done a successful unit that fast before.

Also, should the project cause be covid-19 rather than unspecified?

Kind regards

Mark

What GPU are you using? :)
I see about 15% lower PPD on the 134xx projects (albeit, I have yet to receive a 13413).

GTX 1080. I''ve since done 4 more 134xx units. All a bit on the high side for my GPU, but not as extreme.

I'd normally expect an average of about 780k ppd, the original was 1M, the last 4 were 835k to 865k
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Re: Project 13413

Postby Swedis » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:12 am

I have an issue with this project there this specific WU 13413,3019,0,0 crasch at 100% 4 times in a row now, seems that i am not able to complete it.

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05:54:47:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 930000 out of 1000000 steps (93%)
05:56:01:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 940000 out of 1000000 steps (94%)
05:57:16:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 950000 out of 1000000 steps (95%)
05:58:30:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 960000 out of 1000000 steps (96%)
05:59:45:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 970000 out of 1000000 steps (97%)
06:01:00:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 980000 out of 1000000 steps (98%)
06:02:15:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 990000 out of 1000000 steps (99%)
06:03:29:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1000000 out of 1000000 steps (100%)
06:03:29:WU02:FS01:0x22:Average performance: 231.635 ns/day
06:03:30:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file ..\logfile_01.txt
06:03:30:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file checkpointState.xml
06:03:30:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file globals.csv
06:03:30:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file positions.xtc
06:03:30:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file science.log
06:03:30:WU02:FS01:0x22:Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
06:03:31:WARNING:WU02:FS01:FahCore returned an unknown error code which probably indicates that it crashed
06:03:31:WARNING:WU02:FS01:FahCore returned: UNKNOWN_ENUM (-1073740940 = 0xc0000374)
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:Starting
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:\Users\Swedis\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\cores/cores.foldingathome.org/v7/win/64bit/Core_22.fah/FahCore_22.exe -dir 02 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 9732 -checkpoint 5 -gpu-vendor amd -opencl-platform 0 -opencl-device 0 -gpu 0
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 7500
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:Core PID:16272
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:FahCore 0x22 started
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:*********************** Log Started 2020-06-21T06:03:32Z ***********************
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:*************************** Core22 Folding@home Core ***************************
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Core: Core22
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Type: 0x22
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Version: 0.0.10
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:  Copyright: 2020 foldingathome.org
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Homepage: https://foldingathome.org/
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Date: Jun 16 2020
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Time: 14:33:22
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Revision: 147051aad40bcbec7d4b25105bbedfab425f1dc2
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Branch: core22-0.0.10
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Compiler: Visual C++ 2015
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Ob3 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Platform: win32 10
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Bits: 64
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Mode: Release
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Maintainers: John Chodera <john.chodera@choderalab.org> and Peter Eastman
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:             <peastman@stanford.edu>
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Args: -dir 02 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 7500 -checkpoint 5
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:             -gpu-vendor amd -opencl-platform 0 -opencl-device 0 -gpu 0
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:************************************ libFAH ************************************
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Date: Jun 15 2020
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Time: 18:05:04
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Revision: 2b383f4f04f38511dff592885d7c0400e72bdf43
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Branch: HEAD
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Compiler: Visual C++ 2015
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Ob3 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Platform: win32 10
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Bits: 64
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Mode: Release
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:************************************ CBang *************************************
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Date: Jun 16 2020
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Time: 14:31:33
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Revision: 75fcee0b8e713cb47f5191a3689d5f4f07244c7f
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Branch: HEAD
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Compiler: Visual C++ 2015
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Ob3 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Platform: win32 10
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Bits: 64
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Mode: Release
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:************************************ System ************************************
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:        CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4820K CPU @ 3.70GHz
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:     CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 62 Stepping 4
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:       CPUs: 8
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Memory: 15.94GiB
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Free Memory: 10.85GiB
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22: OS Version: 6.2
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Has Battery: false
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22: On Battery: false
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22: UTC Offset: 2
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:        PID: 16272
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:        CWD: C:\Users\Swedis\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\work
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:********************************************************************************
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Project: 13413 (Run 3019, Clone 0, Gen 0)
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Unit: 0x0000000112bc7d9a5eec4be77e55652d
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Reading tar file core.xml
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Reading tar file integrator.xml
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Reading tar file state.xml
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Reading tar file system.xml
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Digital signatures verified
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Folding@home GPU Core22 Folding@home Core
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:Version 0.0.10
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:  Checkpoint write interval: 50000 steps (5%) [20 total]
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:  JSON viewer frame write interval: 10000 steps (1%) [100 total]
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:  XTC frame write interval: 250000 steps (25%) [4 total]
06:03:32:WU02:FS01:0x22:  Global context and integrator variables write interval: 250 steps (0.025%) [4000 total]
06:03:39:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 0 out of 1000000 steps (0%)
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08:00:38:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 950000 out of 1000000 steps (95%)
08:01:53:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 960000 out of 1000000 steps (96%)
08:03:08:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 970000 out of 1000000 steps (97%)
08:04:22:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 980000 out of 1000000 steps (98%)
08:05:37:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 990000 out of 1000000 steps (99%)
08:06:51:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1000000 out of 1000000 steps (100%)
08:06:51:WU02:FS01:0x22:Average performance: 231.635 ns/day
08:06:52:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file ..\logfile_01.txt
08:06:52:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file checkpointState.xml
08:06:52:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file globals.csv
08:06:52:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file positions.xtc
08:06:52:WU02:FS01:0x22:Saving result file science.log
08:06:52:WU02:FS01:0x22:Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
08:06:53:WARNING:WU02:FS01:FahCore returned an unknown error code which probably indicates that it crashed
08:06:53:WARNING:WU02:FS01:FahCore returned: UNKNOWN_ENUM (-1073740940 = 0xc0000374)
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:Starting
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:\Users\Swedis\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\cores/cores.foldingathome.org/v7/win/64bit/Core_22.fah/FahCore_22.exe -dir 02 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 9732 -checkpoint 5 -gpu-vendor amd -opencl-platform 0 -opencl-device 0 -gpu 0
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 3788
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:Core PID:9280
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:FahCore 0x22 started
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:*********************** Log Started 2020-06-21T08:06:54Z ***********************
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:*************************** Core22 Folding@home Core ***************************
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Core: Core22
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Type: 0x22
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Version: 0.0.10
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:  Copyright: 2020 foldingathome.org
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Homepage: https://foldingathome.org/
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Date: Jun 16 2020
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Time: 14:33:22
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Revision: 147051aad40bcbec7d4b25105bbedfab425f1dc2
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Branch: core22-0.0.10
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Compiler: Visual C++ 2015
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Ob3 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Platform: win32 10
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Bits: 64
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Mode: Release
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Maintainers: John Chodera <john.chodera@choderalab.org> and Peter Eastman
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:             <peastman@stanford.edu>
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Args: -dir 02 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 3788 -checkpoint 5
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:             -gpu-vendor amd -opencl-platform 0 -opencl-device 0 -gpu 0
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:************************************ libFAH ************************************
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Date: Jun 15 2020
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Time: 18:05:04
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Revision: 2b383f4f04f38511dff592885d7c0400e72bdf43
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Branch: HEAD
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08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Ob3 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Platform: win32 10
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Bits: 64
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Mode: Release
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:************************************ CBang *************************************
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Date: Jun 16 2020
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Time: 14:31:33
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Revision: 75fcee0b8e713cb47f5191a3689d5f4f07244c7f
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Branch: HEAD
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Compiler: Visual C++ 2015
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /wd4297 /wd4103 /O2 /Ob3 /Zc:throwingNew /MT
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:   Platform: win32 10
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Bits: 64
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       Mode: Release
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:************************************ System ************************************
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:        CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4820K CPU @ 3.70GHz
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:     CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 62 Stepping 4
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:       CPUs: 8
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:     Memory: 15.94GiB
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Free Memory: 10.82GiB
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:    Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22: OS Version: 6.2
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Has Battery: false
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22: On Battery: false
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22: UTC Offset: 2
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:        PID: 9280
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:        CWD: C:\Users\Swedis\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\work
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:********************************************************************************
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Project: 13413 (Run 3019, Clone 0, Gen 0)
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Unit: 0x0000000112bc7d9a5eec4be77e55652d
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Reading tar file core.xml
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Reading tar file integrator.xml
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Reading tar file state.xml
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Reading tar file system.xml
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Digital signatures verified
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Folding@home GPU Core22 Folding@home Core
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:Version 0.0.10
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:  Checkpoint write interval: 50000 steps (5%) [20 total]
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:  JSON viewer frame write interval: 10000 steps (1%) [100 total]
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:  XTC frame write interval: 250000 steps (25%) [4 total]
08:06:54:WU02:FS01:0x22:  Global context and integrator variables write interval: 250 steps (0.025%) [4000 total]
08:07:02:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 0 out of 1000000 steps (0%)
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Re: Project 13413

Postby ajm » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:25 am

This WU has been completed this morning by 611kilometer at 2020-06-21 05:36:39: https://apps.foldingathome.org/wu#proje ... ne=0&gen=0
You should not have gotten it again at 08:06:XX ???
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Re: Project 13413

Postby Swedis » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:00 am

I got it yesterday, have completed it 5 times but it crasch at 100% and starts over all again.
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Re: Project 13413

Postby ajm » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:16 am

Well, you can safely dump it now.
Pause, delete the GPU slot in Advanced Control, quit Advanced Control, open %AppData%\FAHClient\Work and delete the folder "02" there. Restart FAH and add a GPU slot. It should then download another WU
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