i7 2600k low PPD, help!

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ChristianVirtual
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by ChristianVirtual »

It's too low ... As per 7im numbers you should see 24000 PPD; yourself wrote you see 3000 PPD ; that means the client runs not at its full capability. Reason ? Many.
Can be the PC is not running all the time. Powered off or Power saving settings. See here http://folding.stanford.edu/home/faq/fa ... roduction/
The bonus calculation based on start of a work unit and it's end. Now if the PC is switch off or very busy with something else this time get longer and reduce your points. That's what we try to figure out (in different approaches)
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by Firechris »

guys i've looked for that information box but i can't find it. I feel so stupid, i know, but again i can't find it :(
anyway, according to that site i'm actually pulling 25.500 ppd
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by bollix47 »

In Windows click on the Start button > All Programs > FAHClient > Data Directory.

There you will see a file called log or log.txt. Right click on it and open it with wordpad or notepad. Copy the first hundred lines and paste them here between code tags which are found in Full Editor.
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by davidcoton »

As bollix47 says, OR:
I'm assuming you are using Advanced Control, because you set the Verbosity.
On the Log tab, click Refresh, then scroll up to the top. The first section, down to
22:12:31:Trying to access database...
22:12:31:Successfully acquired database lock
(times may vary)
contains all the system and config info that the client gathers. Copy that and post it.

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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by Firechris »

ok, right, so here it is:

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 *********************** Log Started 2014-04-09T10:10:22Z ***********************
10:10:22:************************* Folding@home Client *************************
10:10:22:      Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
10:10:22:    Copyright: (c) 2009-2014 Stanford University
10:10:22:       Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
10:10:22:         Args: 
10:10:22:       Config: C:/Users/Chris/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/config.xml
10:10:22:******************************** Build ********************************
10:10:22:      Version: 7.4.4
10:10:22:         Date: Mar 4 2014
10:10:22:         Time: 20:26:54
10:10:22:      SVN Rev: 4130
10:10:22:       Branch: fah/trunk/client
10:10:22:     Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1200
10:10:22:      Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /Qdiag-disable:4297,4103,1786,279 /Ox -arch:SSE
10:10:22:               /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qopenmp /Qrestrict /MT /Qmkl
10:10:22:     Platform: win32 XP
10:10:22:         Bits: 32
10:10:22:         Mode: Release
10:10:22:******************************* System ********************************
10:10:22:          CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
10:10:22:       CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7
10:10:22:         CPUs: 8
10:10:22:       Memory: 7.88GiB
10:10:22:  Free Memory: 6.92GiB
10:10:22:      Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
10:10:22:   OS Version: 6.1
10:10:22:  Has Battery: false
10:10:22:   On Battery: false
10:10:22:   UTC Offset: 2
10:10:22:          PID: 2212
10:10:22:          CWD: C:/Users/Chris/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient
10:10:22:           OS: Windows 7 Professional
10:10:22:      OS Arch: AMD64
10:10:22:         GPUs: 1
10:10:22:        GPU 0: NVIDIA:3 GK104 [GeForce GTX 770]
10:10:22:         CUDA: 3.0
10:10:22:  CUDA Driver: 6000
10:10:22:Win32 Service: false
10:10:22:*********************************************************************** 

moreover, i'm actually (according to this site: http://www.linuxforge.net/bonuscalc2.php ) pulling out something about 25.000 and 27.000 PPD (when not using my pc at all, just folding)
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

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And now a bit more log file with the config information <config></config>.
It would be great if you can share the timestamps when the WU your are concerned about started and ended. And let us know if in between you switched off the system. Based on your earlier post that sounds like it.
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by Firechris »

ye i had to shut down the computer, Is that a problem?
Anyway, i still haven't entered a passkey in my system!
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

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Not a problem, but the PPD estimation get "confused". It assume constant folding for WUs. If you interrupt folding of course your actual PPD will be lower. But without passkey ... It don't matter too much.

And keep in mind that once you start a WU please finish it as quick as possible. If you can foresee a longer break better not starting a new one. WU are sequential, based on finished WU new one get created (that's why the QRB we talked earlier).
You can set "finish" on a Running WU via FAHControl. It will prevent the download of a new WU after a current one is done.
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Hardware configuration: Machine #1:

Intel Q9450; 2x2GB=8GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460; Windows Server 2008 X64 (SP1).

Machine #2:

Intel Q6600; 2x2GB=4GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460 video card; Windows 7 X64.

Machine 3:

Dell Dimension 8400, 3.2GHz P4 4x512GB Ram, Video card GTX 460, Windows 7 X32

I am currently folding just on the 5x GTX 460's for aprox. 70K PPD
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by P5-133XL »

Firechris wrote:ye i had to shut down the computer, Is that a problem?
Anyway, i still haven't entered a passkey in my system!
No passkey inherently means low PPD. Points received have two factors, the base points and the quick return bonus (QRB). You get the base points as long as your return the WU before the final deadline. The QRB points are exponential to time. The faster you return them before the first deadline the more points you get. The QRB typically give 5x-10x the base points. You will never get QRB points without a qualified passkey.

Even after you enter the passkey, you will not start getting the bonus points until you have completed 10+ QRB WU's and even then you have to maintain at least an 80% successful return rate.

So your statement that you have not entered the passkey totally answered the original question of your low PPD. There is no need to go further in analyzing why.

P.S. shutting down your computer is also quite effective in diminishing the QRB points. Remember they are related to how fast the WU is completed and while your machine is shutdown you are not folding so speedy completion is not possible.
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by Firechris »

perfect, thank you both, guys!

Just another question:
in this site http://www.linuxforge.net/bonuscalc2.php what's the "Data upload time (min)" voice? What staind it for? I'd like to know where I can find it so I can fill the space
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by Joe_H »

If you have a slow upload or a very large WU, the upload time in minutes gets entered there to adjust the points estimate. Total bonus is based on the time from when a WU is first downloaded until it is fully received back by the server. Usually you can leave it alone, a minute or two is not going to make much difference in points, but a WU that takes half an hour to upload will affect the total a bit.
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Re: i7 2600k low PPD, help!

Post by bruce »

Example:

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19:44:30:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps  (100%)
19:44:30:WU01:FS00:0xa4:DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
(skip some lines)
19:45:17:WU01:FS00:Upload complete
19:45:17:WU01:FS00:Server responded WORK_ACK (400)
from 19:44:30 to 19:45:17 = 0.78 minutes which is not important for a WU that ran for more than 6 hours.
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