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Mining Cards

Postby Nathan_P » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:28 pm

Will the new mining cards based of the pascal gpu's work for folding, they seemed to be designed more for 24/7 use so should last a bit longer?
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Re: Mining Cards

Postby JimboPalmer » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:58 pm

Step 1) The card vendor (AMD, Nvidia) has to write a working driver that supports OpenCL. There is no reason to suspect they won't, but it must happen to fold.

Step 2) owners must report the ID so the card goes in GPUs.txt. Again, no reason to suspect they won't but it must happen. " run FAHClient --lspci | grep NVIDIA in a Cmd Window" to get that yourself.
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Re: Mining Cards

Postby Nathan_P » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:35 pm

Well having looked on one manufacturer's site it looks to download the standard windows drivers so they should work.
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Re: Mining Cards

Postby bruce » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:05 pm

Nathan_P wrote:Well having looked on one manufacturer's site it looks to download the standard windows drivers so they should work.

JimboPalmer is right. You're making a false assumption if you're talking about FAH.

Standard windows drivers will certainly work if you want to produce good video, but using a GPU for FAH (or other Distributed Computing projects) requires either OpenCL or CUDA. Microsoft considers OpenCL an unnecessary option ... and NV's driver team may or may not agree. Note: That OpenCL with a "C" for compute, not OpenGL with a "G" for graphics.

In the past, FAH has supported CUDA on NVidia hardware but that has been discontinued. At the present time OpenCL is required for FAH on GPUs.
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Re: Mining Cards

Postby ComputerGenie » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:19 pm

From what I've read so far, they're essentially a "repackaged" 10xx. Basically, from what I'm seeing, it's the equivalent of a "normal" card with an onboard dongle and outputs removed. My main lingering question is price-point values.
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Re: Mining Cards

Postby bruce » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:09 pm

That makes it sound promising, ComputerGenie, provided the drivers support OpenCL.

If you look at the GPU-Z sensor tab, it has a line that says "Video Engine Load" which is consistently zero when folding. Removing whatever hardware supports that function can be removed, along with the external connectors. That SHOULD make it a cheaper product ... except for the fact that pricing is often dependent on sales volume, not hardware costs.

That would give me another incentive to figure out how to get my video from the iGPU (since I'm not a gamer) without the loss of the GPU compute functionality.
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Re: Mining Cards

Postby toTOW » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:20 pm

I don't think these cards are a good plan : they'll be harder to sell when you'll want to replace them ... and they will only get 90 days warranty with the same design as the usual gaming GPUs ...

Giving the fact that almost all my Maxwell GPUs died within the 2 years warranty, I'd definitely never go for those kind of cards.

Don't forget that in the world of mining, the tools providers are those who are assured to make profit, whatever happens to the value of the mined items. :mrgreen:
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Re: Mining Cards

Postby Leonardo » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:47 am

toTOW, I completely agree with you.

The mining cards are one-trick ponies. The only market for the used cards would other miners.
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