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Folding@home on Tails

Postby Stonecold » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:54 pm

I'm not sure if this is the right board, but would Folding@home be able to run on the Tails operating system (Tails is Linux, so I'd assume this goes here)? Tails is built to be a very secure OS, so I'm not sure if FAH would run it effectively (or at all). Also, would it run more slowly than on Linux? Tails has MUCH fewer processes running simultaneously than other versions of Linux, so I'd assume it would run faster.
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby 7im » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:09 pm

That's funny, a web site for an extra secure OS has a web page that my browser says is out of date with it's security certificate. :lol:

Linux isn't the issue. It's the "live" image part. Unless you setup fah carefully, you loose all your fah data when you shut down the OS. Next, you may have problems connecting to Stanford servers, because Tails forces all internet connections to route through anonymous Tor servers.

And if linux doesn't run fah any faster than Windows with all the extra overhead that Windows supposedly has, then no, a stripped down linux won't run any faster than a regular linux OS. (this was shown to be true at times in the past when Lin and Win used identical fahcores, note they are not identical at this time) There are better ways to optimize your folding performance than to worry about about few extra services running infrequently, in the background, at super low priorities.

Try it and let us know how it goes... ;)
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby Stonecold » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:16 pm

7im wrote:Linux isn't the issue. It's the "live" image part. Unless you setup fah carefully, you loose all your fah data when you shut down the OS. Next, you may have problems connecting to Stanford servers, because Tails forces all internet connections to route through anonymous Tor servers.

Does Stanford block the IP addresses of Tor nodes?

7im wrote:And if linux doesn't run any faster than Windows with all the extra overhead that Windows supposedly has, then no, a stripped down linux won't run any faster than a regular linux OS. There are better ways to optimize your folding performance than to worry about about few extra services running infrequently, in the background, at super low priorities.

I'm not thinking of doing it to optimize FAH. I'm just wondering if it would be possible for me to run it in Tails while I use it so all the time I spend on that OS doesn't decrease my PPD (and the progression of science, of course). The reason I want to look into it more before trying it myself is because it could leek information, which kind of defeats the purpose of using Tails in the first place. It would connect the IP of the Tor exit-node I'm using with my FAH Username and passkey, etc.
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby 7im » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:44 pm

Why would Stanford care anything about Tor nodes? That's not the issue. Any time you play routing games (forcing to route through other servers) you risk causing a connection issue.

Using a PC for anything will ALWAYS reduce your folding performance slightly. Doesn't matter what OS you use to do that. It's not like you're going to try to surf the web from a text based ASCII Art web browser from a command line window to reduce surfing overhead. :roll: Your priorities there are a little misplaced, IMO... Use your PC when you need it, fold when you don't. Don't sweat the rest.

Leak? Fah doesn't leak any kind of info. What else would be leaking what kind of info? If you never put any personal info on to the "live image" of Tails, then it can't ever leak any info either. Same for any other OS. There are easier ways to surf for porn and stay anonymous. ;) Configure Chrome for incognito mode and to use Tor servers. Or use a product like UltraSurf.

No offense, but you keep asking questions about hiding a service, hiding fah, using an OS that leaves no traces and connects to the internet anonymously, etc. One might draw a conclusion that you are trying to run fah on computers that you don't have permission to use that way, and don't want to get caught doing so. Because if it's not related to fah, there are easier ways of doing whatever else you are doing... ;)
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby Stonecold » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:59 pm

7im wrote:Leak? Fah doesn't leak any kind of info. What else would be leaking what kind of info? If you never put any personal info on to the "live image" of Tails, then it can't ever leak any info either. Same for any other OS. There are easier ways to surf for porn and stay anonymous. ;) Configure Chrome for incognito mode and to use Tor servers. Or use a product like UltraSurf.

It's not that FAH would leak info itself. If I'm using a Tor node with an IP of 96.44.163.76 for example, then FAH will communicate with the Stanford servers with that IP. Then if I surf the web at the same time, any site I visit will record 96.44.163.76 as well, which is the same as the one connected to "Stonecold" on the Stanford servers. At that point it would be easy to connect the two. So it defeats the purpose of Tails being used for anonymity. But the details on Tails and Tor are for other forums and aren't really relevant here.
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby 7im » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:16 pm

Good luck getting anything out of the encrypted transmissions to the encrypted firewalled Stanford servers... and unless your real name is Stonecold, the only problem that I see is that you used your real name as your forum name. :lol:

But yes, any discussion of going to any more levels of extreme anonymity are best directed at a forum that specializes in such topics. Image
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby Stonecold » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:56 pm

7im wrote:Good luck getting anything out of the encrypted transmissions to the encrypted firewalled Stanford servers... and unless your real name is Stonecold, the only problem that I see is that you used your real name as your forum name. :lol:

Stanford records the IP addresses of anyone connecting, even if it is encrypted. And how'd you know that was my real name? :wink: But isn't your real name Tim Braun? You use your real name. :shock:
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby 7im » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:07 pm

Yep, that's me (or is it?). One of several located in Arizona (assuming that I really am in Arizona like my forum profile says...). It would appear that I'm easy to find. I even have my real picture as my forum profile picture. :lol: :lol:

It's a lot easier to put out false and conflicting personal info than to hide all info. But then we're way off topic...
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby Stonecold » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:11 pm

7im wrote:Yep, that's me (or is it?). One of several located in Arizona (assuming that I really am in Arizona like my forum profile says...). It would appear that I'm easy to find. I even have my real picture as my forum profile picture. :lol: :lol:

Yep, it's not good to let everyone know you're 7im the Enchanter. What manner of man are you that can summon up fire without flint or tinder?
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby 7im » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:27 pm

It's a lot easier to do that when it's a 120F in Arizona. I just winter there in the summer... I usually hang out a little farther south. :twisted:
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Re: Folding@home on Tails

Postby Stonecold » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:40 pm

7im wrote:It's a lot easier to do that when it's a 120F in Arizona. I just winter there in the summer... I usually hang out a little farther south. :twisted:

lol :lol:
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