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CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby Bill1024 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:17 am

Here are some CPUs that make the bigadv deadline
Socket F

Chips that are said to make the deadline for QRB in order of performance on P8101:

8389 - QC @ 2.9ghz - 33:00 TPF
ZS301804P4D14 - QC @ 3.0ghz Engineering Sample 32:00 TPF
8425 - Hexacore @ 2.1ghz LE 30:00 TPF
8431 - Hexacore @ 2.4ghz 27:30 TPF
8439 - Hexacore @ 2.8ghz SE 23:00 TPF

Intel LGA1366 xeon requirements.

Dual hexcores with HT on at 2.66ghz or greater for 8101.
Dual Quads with HT on would need to be at 4ghz for 8101.
LGA 2011 2p xeons are:-
Dual Octocores with HT on at 2.0Ghz
Dual Hexcores with HT on at 2.5 Ghz

Any one have info on what G32 and G34 CPUs make the deadline for QRB?
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby orion » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:04 am

You may want to mention that with socket F only 4p will work.

6128's on up @ stock will make it in a 4p setup (not sure about the 6124 @ stock). Some 2p setups will work. A 6128 @ stock in a 2p has a TPF of 24min on an 8104; most likely it won't make an 8101. (I haven't tested that yet)

6204, 6208 & 6308 probably will not make it.

Someone over at [H] is running a C32 that can make a 8101. http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1757068
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby Qinsp » Tue May 28, 2013 2:59 pm

2P x 6128 would not make P8101 deadline for me on a 2P board that did not permit overclocking. IIRC, it wasn't very close? 38:00?

2P G34's with 12 or more cores each will make it. 2P 16C 6200 ES x 2.2ghz running at 2.8ghz makes about 250k PPD average. The chips are $200 each, and the mobo is $400, so a fairly cheap date. It will easily make P8101 without overclocking, but overclocking is very stable and cool running.
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby leexgx » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:08 pm

interesting how the AMD 6200 CPUs work (250k just off 2P bulldozer CPU was not expected as 16core is more like 8-12core depending whats its doing)

so an ES or 6262 HE running at 2.8/2.9 could do some interesting numbers (more so if it was an 4P as i seen them do over 400K PPD) i was thinking of going down the AMD 6100 route but may not need to

i been out of the folding game for some time now but i may soon be coming to get a consistent income in the next year, so i been looking at 4P AMD systems with power use below 450w ideally (as i am planing of having more than one)

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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby Nathan_P » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:28 pm

You'll struggle to get an AMD 4p below 450w but it may be possible - you may need to lower you expectations on points though as 12 cores cpu's are usually ~100w each, + mobo, ram etc. 500-550 may be a better target. The biggest AMD 4p pull over 1100w from the wall
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby leexgx » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:47 pm

(edited for language)

... forum on mobile phone (Lost eveything)
Guess I type it when I get back (total system should not be more then 500w for 4p amd HE system)
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby orion » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:24 am

My 6128 4p @ 2.47GHz, 16GB of DDR2 1333 with 4 212's plugged into the board is pulling 700w from the wall. I don't recall what the other 4p is pulling.
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby leexgx » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:13 am

guess they do start to pull a lot more power as the over clock speed goes up
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby Grandpa_01 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:59 am

My 4P 6174 @ 2600Mhz pulls 615 Watts at the wall that is with a ssd a platinum power supply and 4 - hyper 212's and nothing else it makes between between 400K and 650K ppd depending on the WU, Since you are not wanting to use too much power I will not tell you about the rest of the farm, but I am one of them that has some rigs that pull close to 1200 Watts at the wall. :(
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby leexgx » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:24 am

ok thats quite a tad amount of power but your setup is what i would expect to pull Watt wise

but still interested as 2P/4P CPUs seem way more power efficient use (ppd/watt) so the info is welcome , but trying to do 5mill points like you are doing must pull some power total, i seen 3 of your results (if that was you) that are nearly doing 800k ppd, 4P amd 6190? (no info) at 3ghz and a intel 4650 @ locked? 3.1Ghz (thought you could only hold that for 30 secs before it drops to base clock 2.6 or 2.7 depending if its the L version or not)

i did the Nvidia route 3-4 years ago, i had at least 8 9800GX2 :) i was able to trip the 32amp beaker with that setup (dryer and washing machine and dishwasher all on at the same time + 3 folding rigs did it) also i am in the UK so 240v so a lot harder to trip UK beakers so was quite surprised that happened (110v uses twice the amps then 240v) but not when you add up all the KW that each thing was using in total (i moved one of my rigs to mates house to heat his flat up) most of the GPUs died after a bit
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby Nathan_P » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:15 pm

Well here's a thought on 2p, Intel E5 2665 @ 2.3 pulls 248w from the wall, that's mobo, CPU's, 5450 gpu, hdd and some fans. PPD at the top end is 267k on 8103
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby leexgx » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:00 pm

well the 4P AMD 6100 seems best bet if i am not going to be bothered with how much power they are going to be using probably make some systems based off the Hardocp Next Generation OC BIOS (i am on page 13 of 35 interesting read)

see if i can get as much out of the CPU probably need 6176 SE or 6180 SE + water cooling (but they cost twice the cost of a 6166HE per cpu) or just make a loads of 6166HE P4 setups but still based of [H] spec (small OC) as i could make Two 4p 6166HE setups for the cost of a One 4p 6180 SE setup (nearly)

intel route is better on resell-ability later on as you can use workstation boards for 2P systems, but 4p intel systems (can't say that word) go very fast but so does the price
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby Bill1024 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:00 am

The socket F 8425 2.1ghz 4P 6core 24core total, runs at 317 watts with 1 HD and 4 cpu fans and 8 sticks of ram @ 100% load.
112k - 175k ppd. 8101-8103 WU

My KillAwatt meter was off by over 1 amp high at only 2.5 amp draw. Said I was at around 3.6 or 7.
Double checked with 2 different volt-amp probe meters. AN UEI and a Fluke
It was telling me I was drawing 450 watts or more when It was only 317, That is a big difference.
I no longer trust 15$ meters.
Take a killAwatt reading with a grain of salt.
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Re: CPUs that make bigadv deadline

Postby cordis » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:12 am

Hey, here's a fairly random data point. I have a dual Intel Xeon E5-2687W system, but the motherboard has been getting flaky, so I recently took out one out and turned it into a single E5-2687W system. And it still seems to be making deadlines, but it took a big ppd hit, currently at 133k ppd with an 8105 wu. It's actually running pretty even with my dual opteron 6174 system at this point, although that's working on an 8104 at the moment. Just an odd fyi, really, if you ever wanted to build a single chip xeon bigadv system, it can be done. I read today that the Haswell E chips that got pushed back to 2014 will have an 8 core variant, and if they release an unlocked multiplier version, then that chip should be good to go for bigadv. Assuming the required core count doesn't go up again, of course. :ewink:
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