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GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby pasvorn » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:02 am

Not sure if this belong here. Sorry if it is in the wrong forum.

I am trying the GPU3 with my EVGA GTX 560 TI.
I noticed that the video card's temperature is 89C with the default clock rate (797MHz, I think)
When I reduced the core clock to be minimum - 496MHz - the temp drops to 81C
The result seems to be ok at either clock rates/temperatures.

If you have a GTX 560 TI, would you let me know if the range of temperature is normal?
I have a Cooler Master mini tower case (120mm fan front, 80mm fan back + PSU fan)

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[02:20:29] Gpu type=3 species=21.
[02:20:29] Loaded queue successfully.
[02:20:29] Initialization complete
[02:20:29] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[02:20:29] Cleaning up work directory
[02:20:29] + Attempting to get work packet
[02:20:29] Passkey found
[02:20:29] Gpu type=3 species=21.
[02:20:29] - Connecting to assignment server
[02:20:30] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.108.54).
[02:20:30] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[02:20:30] Loaded queue successfully.
[02:20:30] Gpu type=3 species=21.
[02:20:30] + Closed connections
[02:20:30]
[02:20:30] + Processing work unit
[02:20:30] Core required: FahCore_15.exe
[02:20:30] Core found.
[02:20:30] Working on queue slot 03 [September 12 02:20:30 UTC]
[02:20:30] + Working ...
[02:20:32]
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[02:20:32] Folding@Home GPU Core
[02:20:32] Version                2.20 (Tue Aug 2 12:06:37 PDT 2011)
[02:20:32] Build host             SimbiosNvdWin7
[02:20:32] Board Type             NVIDIA/CUDA
[02:20:32] Core                   15
[02:20:32]
[02:20:32] Window's signal control handler registered.
[02:20:32] Preparing to commence simulation
[02:20:32] - Looking at optimizations...
[02:20:32] DeleteFrameFiles: successfully deleted file=work/wudata_03.ckp
[02:20:32] - Created dyn
[02:20:32] - Files status OK
[02:20:32] sizeof(CORE_PACKET_HDR) = 512 file=<>
[02:20:32] - Expanded 44017 -> 170279 (decompressed 386.8 percent)
[02:20:32] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=44017 data_size=170279, decompressed_data_size=170279 diff=0
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[02:20:32] Project: 6804 (Run 1, Clone 79, Gen 230)
[02:20:32]
[02:20:32] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[02:20:32] Entering M.D.
[02:20:34] Tpr hash work/wudata_03.tpr:  1221866195 800813869 3446160104 2971489330 4002970478
[02:20:34] calling fah_main gpuDeviceId=0
[02:20:34] Working on ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE AMYLOID
[02:20:34] Client config found, loading data.
[02:20:34] Starting GUI Server
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby Leonardo » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:27 am

Your case is probably failing to provide the video card enough cool air and probably failing to exhaust enough of the hot air out of the case. Video cards generate a lot of waste heat when under the intense, non-stop Folding processing. 89C probably won't damage your GPU, but it's pretty hot.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby GreyWhiskers » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:34 am

Here's my post just after the new FAHCore15 and the p7621 WUs came out.

The p2681 definitely put a big strain on the GPU - mine is the MSI 560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr GPU@950MHz. I've been very pleased with the cooling in this MSI card - the twin fans are both quiet and very efficient. Even with a room ambient of 75 Deg F or more, the GPU temp stays below 70 Deg C.

BTW, since I made this post, I have set SMP 7 to SMP 8 - increasing the ppd for the SMP WUs, even with the parallel GPU WUs.

EDIT: BTW2 - I have about 46 successful 7620/7621 WUs under my belt now with these settings. The one I'm working on right now has a TPF of 5:03 (mm:ss), for a ppd estimate by HFM.net of 14, 790.

GreyWhiskers wrote:Well, I finally got my first one under -advmethods, and find it very interesting and (other than power consumption) very efficient overall.

1. my configuration:
Custom Digital Storm in HAF922 case w/xtra 200 mm side fan
--i7 2600K @4.210GHz
--Noctua NH-U12P CPU Cooler
--ASUS P8P67 Deluxe B3
--4GB ADATA 1600/8 GB Corsair (12 GB total)
--750W Corsair PS
--HDDs: Seagate Hybrid 500GB w/ 4GB SSD--WD Caviar Black 1TB
--MSI 560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr GPU@950MHz
--Win7Home64
GPU3 v6.41 Systray
SMP2 v6.34 console
ASUS VW266 25.5” LCD monitor (1920x1200, HDMI)

b. Normal workload is one -bigadv -SMP7 work unit, and one GPU work unit. I have been running about 43k ppd between them. The seemingly endless stream of p6800 Fermi GPU WUs Give about 14,122 ppd, and the -bigadv with p6900 type WUs get about 29,000 ppd, with some fragility in the long-running SMP WUs.

c. When I got my my first 7621 this evening, the following things were remarkable:
1. The overall system wall socket power consumption went from 324 watts (not counting the monitor which is on a separate UPS) to 360-369 watts. These WUs added about 36 watts to the GPUs draw of about 150 watts on the p6800-type WUs.
2. The GPU temp went from about 60 deg c to 69 deg c. The MSI Twin-Frozr cooling fans seem remarkable for air cooling. The GPU fans ramped up from maybe 55% to 62%. It doesn't seem that I will need to touch the 950 MHz O/C on the GPU.
3. the mobo temp went up a degree - 36 deg to 37 deg. The chassis fans are doing a good job of getting the heat out of the case. The CPU Temps seem about where they were in the 63-66 range, with the highest short-term excursion to 70 deg in the max of the warmest CPU core.
4. :eo The new Core 15 2.0 on these WUs are resulting in a seemingly rock steady 4:59 to 5:01 mm:ss ppd. That equates to 14,888 ppd, or a bit better than the p6800s.
5. :shock: These WUs seemed to have a beneficial effect on the SMP wu going on. I had been getting ~ 30:50 TPF for the p6900s, running the "normal" p6802 - p6804 type GPU Wus in parallel. Now, I'm looking at 30:00 TPF for the p6900, still in -SMP 7.

I think the effect in #5 may be due to exceedingly low CPU usage by Core 15. After chewing on the p7621 for about 2.3 hours, windows Taskmon is showing only 8 seconds of CPU usage.
6. Bottom line between the GPU and SMP Wus is that HFM is seeing a 44,724 ppd now.

Well, let's see how it plays out as it finishes the WUs.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby baggzy » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:07 pm

My Zotec GTX 560ti runs pretty hot too. About 79C at stock 823MHz. But that's with a side fan pumping air INTO the case straight onto the card. Without that (or with the side fan pumping air OUT) it went up above 90C before I shut it down. Put a fan on the side pumping air onto the card and you should see the temperature drop 5C-15C, which should put you in a more comfortable temperature range.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby verlyol » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:21 pm

Temperatures over 75 °c is not ideal especially if the temperature is maintained for several hours !!
You must see to manually control the fan speed and increase if necessary
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby Zagen30 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:01 pm

While I don't have a card quite as hot/powerful as a 560 (I have a pair of 460s), manually upping the fan speed definitely helps a lot. By default the fans usually seem to run around 40% of max, basically enough to keep them from seriously overheating. Even upping that to a constant 65% has gotten my cards to run several degrees cooler.

Dust buildup can also be a problem. pasvorn, how old is the 560? Even if you got only it a couple months ago it may be worth doing a good dusting with some compressed air. The case itself may need a dusting as well.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby verlyol » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:14 pm

And also check if the heatsink is correctly attached to the GPU ?
Maybe removing the cooling system to clean it and replace the thermal paste
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby Leonardo » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:59 am

And also check if the heatsink is correctly attached to the GPU ?
Maybe removing the cooling system to clean it and replace the thermal paste
Fine and good, but first, just open the case side and direct a ventilation fan to blow towards the video card. If the temperatures go way down, you at least know what the problem is - lack of fresh intake and/or lack of adequate exhaust. Just verify that first, then start looking for solutions. If the temps don't go down, then there's a hardware problem.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby pasvorn » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:28 am

Hi All,

Thanks a lot for your recommendation. The 560 is new, and the computer is relatively new (<6 months old).
So dusting is not the problem. However,

1. right next to the 560 is a SATA II PCI-E controller. It is a half-height card, and it is right next to the 560.
It looks like it should not interfear with the airflow.
I remove the controler and the temp reduced to 75C.

2. It also turned out that when I adjusted the clock and the fan yesterday, I didn't hit "Apply" button. Duh!!!!
So it didn't do anything. :(

3. As Zagen30 pointes out. The fan "auto" control does not go above 30% on my card.
I change it to manual and set to 65%

Now, the core clock is running at 780Mhz + fan @65%. The temperature is now around 68C
I think it looks more manageable now.

Thanks a lot for all your suggestions and comment. I may try to find another fan to pump fresh air into the video card area too.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby Leonardo » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:42 am

68C is not a bad operating temperature for a Fermi. You're in good shape.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby Lloyd » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:21 am

I am running the EVGA 560 TI and with the hard 7620 WU's, its running 69c with the settings @ Core 900,Shader 1800, memory 2106. Its a little hotter than the just replaced EVGA 460 Sc card which ran @ 62c. I also droppped from 6:45 per fold to 5:22 per fold.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby JoshEllie-16 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:40 pm

I also have a gtx 560TI Twin Frozr 2, and as a complete novice decided to try the advmethods flag out of curiosity. Picked up P7621, got to about 40% and stopped. The log said UNSTABLE MACHINE, but nothing had changed in the 3 and a half hours the project was being worked on. Got it all working now, but it's put me completely off advmethods WU's.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby WoodburyMan » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:05 pm

The latest nVidia cards seem to all have heat related issues. The main issue is the GPU fan's do not ramp up adequately compared to GPU temp.

I had a GTX270 and current a GTX570 and both ran very hot. The firmware eVGA supplies them had the fans way to low. At 70C the fans were barely running at 30-35%. The GPU would overheat if I ran the GPU2/3 client on Folding@Home, or played several consecutive rounds of games utilizing near 100% GPU. It would get up and over 80C up to 85C and start getting unstable and eventually nVidia driver would crash and I'd get corrupt artifacts and such on screen until I rebooted. Since then I installed MSI Afterburner. Best thing I ever did. I simply adjusted the fan profile, and now even at 100% utilization my GPU doesn't get above 65C-70C and remains stable. (Points set: 0-30C 40% fan, 50C 50%, 55C 60%, 65C 70%, 75C 80%, 80C 100%.). And I have it set to scale in between points.

The issue was not case ventilation (I believe 6 120mm fans is enough...) and aftermarket cooler was not needed. Just setting the fan speed.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby GreyWhiskers » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:04 pm

I haven't seen a complete comparison, but as my Sept 11 post near the top of this thread shows, there IS a difference among the cooling provided by the various vendors who package the Nvidia GTX chips. I'm running the GTX560Ti from MSI in their TwinFrozr packaging - dual fans. Without making any tweaks at all to the fan profiles, this has been running almost exclusively the p7620/7621 WUs since they were put on advmethods. The temps have kept to under 70 deg C even when the board is O/C to 950 MHz.

The case configuratioin I have proabably isn't optimal, either. I have a HAF922 with three 200-mm fans - front and top blowing IN, side blowing OUT, and the 120 mm back blowing out. Conventional wisdom is that the top should blow OUT and the side blow IN, but since everything seems to work well, even with the GTX560Ti card, I'll just leave it as it is.

If you have an issue with a different manufacturer's boards, then it seems you do need to deal with tweaking fan profiles, and doing extra things with the case cooling. If you are setting up a new system and haven't bought your components, look carefully at the vendor's design. MSI isn't the only one that has a twin fan design.
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Re: GTX 560 TI with FahCore_15.exe temperature?

Postby codysluder » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:25 pm

WoodburyMan wrote:I had a GTX270 and current a GTX570 and both ran very hot. The firmware eVGA supplies them had the fans way to low.


Have you complained to eVGA? If I had the problem, I'd use some of the information supplied by GreyWhiskers to get eVGA to solve their problem. You shouldn't have to override their fan profile or add better cooling fans to the card.
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