time per frame

If you're new to FAH and need help getting started or you have very basic questions, start here.

Moderators: Site Moderators, FAHC Science Team

Post Reply
torsionbar
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:22 pm

time per frame

Post by torsionbar »

I'm a folding newbie, running the smp client on my quad-opteron linux box now. I've been told I need to have a "time per frame" of ~40 minutes at the absolute most, and preferably much shorter than 40 minutes.

How do I know what my average time per frame is? How big is a frame and how do I determine how long it takes to complete one?

Thank you
ChasR
Posts: 402
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:36 am
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: time per frame

Post by ChasR »

Open the file fahlog.txt with notepad or some similar text editor and read it. You can run a monitoring application like HFM and it will provide you with all the info about the work in process and history that you could ask for.

HFM-NET: http://code.google.com/p/hfm-net/
Image
P5-133XL
Posts: 2948
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:36 am
Hardware configuration: Machine #1:

Intel Q9450; 2x2GB=8GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460; Windows Server 2008 X64 (SP1).

Machine #2:

Intel Q6600; 2x2GB=4GB Ram; Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 Motherboard; PC Power and Cooling Q750 PS; 2x GTX 460 video card; Windows 7 X64.

Machine 3:

Dell Dimension 8400, 3.2GHz P4 4x512GB Ram, Video card GTX 460, Windows 7 X32

I am currently folding just on the 5x GTX 460's for aprox. 70K PPD
Location: Salem. OR USA

Re: time per frame

Post by P5-133XL »

Look at the FAHLog.txt file. Every WU time stamps each frame and one frame is 1% of the work. You don't really need any of the numbers on the line other than the time stamp and different cores put out different numbers anyway.

For a good average find the start of a WU, and then find the end of the WU. The timestamps will tell you when it started and when it ended. If the WU took more than a day then you have to take that time into consideration too, for the time stamps only list hour:minute:second. Convert the elapsed time to minutes and then divide by 100 to get an average frame time.

Another simple way is to install a monitoring program like HFM.net or FAHMON (found in the tools link above) and they will tell you explicitly rather than having to calculate from your logs.
Image
torsionbar
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:22 pm

Re: time per frame

Post by torsionbar »

Ah, ok, so each line of output corresponds with one frame? And one frame is equivalent to 1/100 of a work unit? I guess that makes sense. Sort of. In that case, my time per frame is about 10 minutes.

thank you
torsionbar
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:22 pm

Re: time per frame

Post by torsionbar »

ChasR wrote:Open the file fahlog.txt with notepad or some similar text editor and read it. You can run a monitoring application like HFM and it will provide you with all the info about the work in process and history that you could ask for.

HFM-NET:
This hfm tool looks like Microsoft stuff? I don't have any microsoft windows machines. All are either Linux (Fedora 14 AMD64) or Mac OSX. But thanks anyhow.
Last edited by torsionbar on Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:08 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Fahrenheit451
Posts: 90
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:25 am
Hardware configuration: System 1:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850, 3000 MHz (9 x 333)
Mainboard: Gigabyte P35-DS3P v1.1
RAM: 2 GB (2x1024 MB DDR2 Dual-Channel, DRAM frequency 400 MHz)
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate, 32 bit, Service Pack 2
HD: Samsung HD501LJ (500 GB)
PSU: BeQuiet Straight Power E8 CM 580W
Case: CoolerMaster Cosmos 1000
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512, XFX Pine Group
GFX driver version: 285.62
The card runs at stock speed: GPU 648 MHz, Memory 972 Mhz, Shader 1620 MHz

System 2:
CPU: Intel i7 2600 (Sandy Bridge) @ 3400 MHz (4C/8T)
Mainboard: Asus P8H67-M-Pro
RAM: 8GB (2x4 GB DDR3, 1333 MHz, Kingston)
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit
HD: Samsung HD103SJ (1TB)
PSU: BeQuiet Straight Power E8 CM 580 W
Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D with H100 water cooling
GPU: i7 2600 IGP (not for folding) / Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti OC 1GB
Location: Bonn, Germany

Re: time per frame

Post by Fahrenheit451 »

You can use one of the 3rd party tools like FahMon or HFM. They show you the TPF for the current WU and client and also the estimated time for finishing the active WU. You can find a list of the tools by clicking on Tools in the header section of this forum. The TPF itself varies, a bit within the same WU but much more between different projects. TPF also depends on your hardware, e.g. my computer needs about 28-30 minutes for a frame of a 6701 WU but only ~ 12:30 min for a 6070 WU.
I use HFM, but as it works on Windows only so I can't hardly recommend it for your Linux box ;-) I'm sure there are Linux tools in the list which do the same.
ChasR
Posts: 402
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:36 am
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: time per frame

Post by ChasR »

HFM runs under mono in Linux.
Image
Nathan_P
Posts: 1180
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:22 pm
Hardware configuration: Asus Z8NA D6C, 2 x5670@3.2 Ghz, , 12gb Ram, GTX 980ti, AX650 PSU, win 10 (daily use)

Asus Z87 WS, Xeon E3-1230L v3, 8gb ram, KFA GTX 1080, EVGA 750ti , AX760 PSU, Mint 18.2 OS

Not currently folding
Asus Z9PE- D8 WS, 2 E5-2665@2.3 Ghz, 16Gb 1.35v Ram, Ubuntu (Fold only)
Asus Z9PA, 2 Ivy 12 core, 16gb Ram, H folding appliance (fold only)
Location: Jersey, Channel islands

Re: time per frame

Post by Nathan_P »

torsionbar wrote:Ah, ok, so each line of output corresponds with one frame? And one frame is equivalent to 1/100 of a work unit? I guess that makes sense. Sort of. In that case, my time per frame is about 10 minutes.

thank you
10 minutes tpf - just what is in your quad opty box?? I'm guessing at 6176SE or similar?
Image
Qinsp
Posts: 216
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:34 pm

Re: time per frame

Post by Qinsp »

10 TPF????

What WU?

If that's a bigadv (not a SMP) you be FLYIN! A 15 TPF is over 100k PPD.
Quality Inspection - Corona, CA, USA
Dimensional Inspection Laboratory
Pat McSwain, President
torsionbar
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:22 pm

Re: time per frame

Post by torsionbar »

no do not get too excited. this is not bigadv units, this is regular old smp units. it's an older machine. dual socket 940 with a pair of dual-core opteron 285's. total of four cores @ 2.6 ghz each and 8 GB of memory. nothing to write home about, but i have it laying around so might as well do some folding with it. thanks all
Post Reply