GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby Jesse_V » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:39 pm

DocJones, try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" and then restart. Drivers should be good then.

If you're new to Linux, I would recommend dabbling in Mint rather than Ubuntu, but that's my personal preference. :)
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby DocJonz » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:08 pm

'Current' drivers in Ubuntu are fairly old - 304.88 (with 310.14 as dev drivers). I guess the next release of Ubuntu (which I've used for years) will bring an update to these ... I'll persist with the Win route for now, but no doubt I'll look to run the 780's in Ubuntu in the future when drivers for these cards are default.
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby Nicolas_orleans » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:49 pm

There have been reports of some issues with 319.xx drivers and some older kernels.
If your install of Ubuntu is 13.04 (eg linux kernel 3.8) you can proceed as below (backup your data first !)
1/ make sure to have latest 3.8 kernel
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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

2/ install xorg edgers PPA
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install nvidia-319

3/ reboot
4/ remove PPA (xorg is really bleeding edge and not always fully stable)
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sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
sudo apt-get update


This worked for my GTX770s
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby Jesse_V » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:56 pm

Good ideas there Nicolas. I wasn't aware of that PPA.
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby 7im » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:12 pm

What is papa?
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby DocJonz » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:51 pm

I tend to stick with the LTS versions of Ubuntu .... so I'm only on 12.04 LTS. I like stability ... and not changing the OS every 6 months(!)

I did try with the nVidia-319 driver, but that's when things slipped up - or maybe it was, in fact, the compatibility issues you mention - and I ended up doing an Ubuntu re-install!)
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby Jesse_V » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:33 pm

7im wrote:What is papa?

Personal Package Archive. Developers can create a .deb package, digitally sign it with their PGP key, and upload it to Launchpad. Then anyone can add that PPA as a source, thus allowing them to install and update them from apt-get like any other package. You can think of it like having your own public app store, except everything is free.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Package_Archive
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby 7im » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:14 am

Seems like an extra and unnecessary step. Just download the driver you want directly from NV, and install it.

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/319.32/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.32.run

After you have downloaded the file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.32.run, change to the directory containing the downloaded file, and as the root user run the executable:
# cd yourdirectory
# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-319.32.run

The .run file is a self-extracting archive. When executed, it extracts the contents of the archive and runs the contained nvidia-installer utility, which provides an interactive interface to walk you through the installation.

nvidia-installer will also install itself to /usr/bin/nvidia-installer, which may be used at some later time to uninstall drivers, auto-download updated drivers, etc.
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby PantherX » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:28 am

My best guess is that with the PPA, you can automatically upgrade your drivers whenever a new version is made available. With the standalone download, you can't do that. Assuming that is correct, both methods can be used by different donors. Donors who want to update to the latest version can do that automatically while others want can install it once and then just let it crunch WUs quietly in the background.
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby Jesse_V » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:41 am

That's right PantherX. I believe installing pre-built binaries from PPAs is generally more reliable than installing those script files from Nvidia's site. The PPA packages are often specifically built for the specific Ubuntu version, so they should work just fine. The PPA packages also have the advantage in that a minor update can be issued if there's something wrong with the build; Nvidia's installation script doesn't do that.
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby 7im » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:01 am

You both read the last line of my quote, right? Underlined and bolded for emphasis.

nvidia-installer will also install itself to /usr/bin/nvidia-installer, which may be used at some later time to uninstall drivers, auto-download updated drivers, etc.


And a new beta driver posted a few days ago.

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/325.08/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.08.run
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby bruce » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:17 pm

I'm expressing a personal opinion and folks have every right to disagree, but I've been burned enough times with "bad" drivers to think that auto-updating any drivers is a bad idea. I find a set that works and then do not update them. If I do decide to update them, I want to be sure my brain engaged so that if something unexpected happens, I know exactly what changed.
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby Nicolas_orleans » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:27 pm

DocJonz wrote: I did try with the nVidia-319 driver, but that's when things slipped up - or maybe it was, in fact, the compatibility issues you mention - and I ended up doing an Ubuntu re-install!)


Well, it's likely. I haven't seen any post regarding a successful 319.32 install on kernel 3.5 (assuming you are running 12.04.2). It works with kernels 3.8 and 3.9, and has been reported as broken with 3.10, needing some nvidia patch (at least two patches). I have seen some folks updating 12.04 LTS or Mint 13 with kernel 3.9 and recompiling 319.32, but it's beyond my current linux skills.

Regarding what 7im is mentionning, one should not forget the disclaimer on the nvidia website saying that their drivers are not optimized for each distribution framework. In my linux experience (4 years) it has proven to be true, I got better results with the canonical repositories or with the xorg edgers ppa that is optimized for the framework of each supported distribution.
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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby ChristianVirtual » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:04 pm

1am in the morning, lots email from my monitoring system telling me my Ubuntu box for folding is not responsive. Neither console access not ssh is working. So I finally pressed the button which I hate doing.
Seems I hit my 8900(949,0,56) just at the end in a bad way which cause it to restart. Now I have two (!) 8900 WU assigned; but correctly one is not running. Driver 319.x from xorg-edgers repo.
I might take down the whole system for another rebuild.

But somehow I need to look more into the log files; every other day is some Hickok in operation. :cry:


I might have a proble in power supply from Antec with 2x 19A might be less. Time to get another Seasonic.

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Re: GTX 780 & Core 17 problems

Postby Jesse_V » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:48 pm

Nicolas_orleans wrote:Regarding what 7im is mentionning, one should not forget the disclaimer on the nvidia website saying that their drivers are not optimized for each distribution framework. In my linux experience (4 years) it has proven to be true, I got better results with the canonical repositories or with the xorg edgers ppa that is optimized for the framework of each supported distribution.

Thanks for that observation, that's good to know.
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