QuadroFX3800 & 9800GT folds but unknown

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QuadroFX3800 & 9800GT folds but unknown

Postby bambihunter » Sat May 04, 2013 9:39 pm

I have a small folding farm finally going and everything is folding along quite well with the new 7.0.3.6 client and I am getting around 250k ppd out of the "farm". I did find where it appears the old ATI 4850's are no longer supported (no biggie). However, I have 2 video cards out of 15 cards that will fold, but they always show "unknown" under base credit, estimated credit, estimated PPD, and timeout. These do appear white listed cards according to the GPU-Z ID:
Quadro 3800FX is 10DE-05FF and has 192 cuda cores and the 9800Gt is 10DE-0614 with 112 cores. They appear to be folding, completing units, etc. This ONLY happens to these two cards and none of my others including similar Quadro 2000's and 4000's. Is there anything to do to make it show this info? It isn't that critical, I just like to know my PPD vs watts drawn to make sure things are worth running.

One off-topic question, can I completely turn off the web control option by simply going to Configure > Expert > and changing open-web-control to false instead of true?
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Re: QuadroFX3800 & 9800GT folds but unknown

Postby bruce » Sat May 04, 2013 9:51 pm

For a GPU to work, it must be whitelisted and must be detected by V7. This is pretty clearly delinitated in the first page of the log or in the system tab of FAHClient. Posting that segment here is probably a good idea if they don't appear to be folding.

The code running on the FAH servers is not identical. Some servers are still running old code which does not download the deadline and points information to the client. Tha feature was added to servers that are running the newer server code versions.
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Re: QuadroFX3800 & 9800GT folds but unknown

Postby bambihunter » Sun May 05, 2013 4:39 am

Thanks for your reply Bruce, I thought about doing that but wasn't sure. If this isn't enough, let me know and I can grab more/rest of it.

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19:48:15:      Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
19:48:15:    Copyright: (c) 2009-2013 Stanford University
19:48:15:       Author: Joseph Coffland <joseph@cauldrondevelopment.com>
19:48:15:         Args: --open-web-control
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19:48:15:         Date: Feb 18 2013
19:48:15:         Time: 15:25:17
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19:48:15:     Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1200
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19:48:15:         Mode: Release
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19:48:15:       CPU ID: AuthenticAMD Family 16 Model 4 Stepping 2
19:48:15:         CPUs: 4
19:48:15:       Memory: 8.00GiB
19:48:15:  Free Memory: 6.68GiB
19:48:15:      Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
19:48:15:  Has Battery: false
19:48:15:   On Battery: false
19:48:15:   UTC offset: -5
19:48:15:          PID: 3788
19:48:15:          CWD: C:/ProgramData/FAHClient
19:48:15:           OS: Windows 7 Professional
19:48:15:      OS Arch: AMD64
19:48:15:         GPUs: 3
19:48:15:        GPU 0: NVIDIA:1 GT200GL [Quadro FX 3800]
19:48:15:        GPU 1: NVIDIA:1 G92 [GeForce 9800 GT]
19:48:15:        GPU 2: NVIDIA:2 GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
19:48:15:         CUDA: 1.3
19:48:15:  CUDA Driver: 5000
19:48:15:Win32 Service: false
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19:48:15:  <power v='full'/>
19:48:15:
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19:48:15:
19:48:15:  <!-- Network -->
19:48:15:  <proxy v=':8080'/>
19:48:15:
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19:48:15:
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19:48:15:  <team v='162643'/>
19:48:15:  <user v='Bambihunter'/>
19:48:15:
19:48:15:  <!-- Folding Slots -->
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19:48:15:  <slot id='1' type='GPU'/>
19:48:15:  <slot id='2' type='GPU'/>
19:48:15:  <slot id='3' type='CPU'/>
19:48:15:</config>
19:48:15:Trying to access database...
19:48:15:Successfully acquired database lock
19:48:15:Enabled folding slot 00: READY gpu:0:GT200GL [Quadro FX 3800]
19:48:15:Enabled folding slot 01: READY gpu:1:G92 [GeForce 9800 GT]
19:48:15:Enabled folding slot 02: READY gpu:2:GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
19:48:15:Enabled folding slot 03: READY cpu:4
19:48:15:WU03:FS03:Starting
19:48:15:WU03:FS03:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/ProgramData/FAHClient/cores/www.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe -dir 03 -suffix 01 -version 703 -lifeline 3788 -checkpoint 15 -np 4
19:48:15:WU03:FS03:Started FahCore on PID 3312
19:48:15:WU03:FS03:Core PID:2780
19:48:15:WU03:FS03:FahCore 0xa4 started
19:48:15:WU02:FS02:Starting
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19:48:15:WU02:FS02:Started FahCore on PID 2196
19:48:15:WU02:FS02:Core PID:3364
19:48:15:WU02:FS02:FahCore 0x15 started
19:48:15:WU01:FS01:Starting
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19:48:15:WU01:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 5080
19:48:15:WU01:FS01:Core PID:4280
19:48:15:WU01:FS01:FahCore 0x11 started
19:48:15:WU04:FS00:Starting
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19:48:15:WU04:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 4192
19:48:15:WU04:FS00:Core PID:3284
19:48:15:WU04:FS00:FahCore 0x11 started
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:
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19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
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19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations...
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:- Files status OK
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:- Expanded 338569 -> 644556 (decompressed 190.3 percent)
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=338569 data_size=644556, decompressed_data_size=644556 diff=0
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:- Digital signature verified
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Project: 7611 (Run 1, Clone 47, Gen 250)
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Assembly optimizations on if available.
19:48:16:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Entering M.D.
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:*------------------------------*
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:Folding@Home GPU Core
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19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:Window's signal control handler registered.
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:Preparing to commence simulation
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:- Looking at optimizations...
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:- Files status OK
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:sizeof(CORE_PACKET_HDR) = 512 file=<>
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:- Expanded 58324 -> 257358 (decompressed 441.2 percent)
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=58324 data_size=257358, decompressed_data_size=257358 diff=0
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:- Digital signature verified
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:
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19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:Assembly optimizations on if available.
19:48:16:WU02:FS02:0x15:Entering M.D.
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:*------------------------------*
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:Folding@Home GPU Core
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19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:
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19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:Board Type: Nvidia
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:Core      :
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:Preparing to commence simulation
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:- Looking at optimizations...
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:- Files status OK
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:- Expanded 62955 -> 336763 (decompressed 534.9 percent)
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=62955 data_size=336763, decompressed_data_size=336763 diff=0
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:- Digital signature verified
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:Project: 10501 (Run 143, Clone 0, Gen 1190)
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:Assembly optimizations on if available.
19:48:16:WU01:FS01:0x11:Entering M.D.
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:*------------------------------*
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Folding@Home GPU Core
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Version 1.31 (Tue Sep 15 10:57:42 PDT 2009)
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Compiler  : Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.50727.762 for 80x86
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Build host: amoeba
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Board Type: Nvidia
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Core      :
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Preparing to commence simulation
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:- Looking at optimizations...
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:- Files status OK
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:- Expanded 62892 -> 336799 (decompressed 535.5 percent)
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=62892 data_size=336799, decompressed_data_size=336799 diff=0
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:- Digital signature verified
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Project: 10504 (Run 213, Clone 0, Gen 1353)
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Assembly optimizations on if available.
19:48:16:WU04:FS00:0x11:Entering M.D.
19:48:17:WU02:FS02:0x15:Will resume from checkpoint file 02/wudata_01.ckp
19:48:17:WU02:FS02:0x15:Tpr hash 02/wudata_01.tpr:  3466172005 1200356107 675888243 2253791343 154283807
19:48:17:WU02:FS02:0x15:GPU device id=2
19:48:17:WU02:FS02:0x15:Working on Gallium Rubidium Oxygen Manganese Argon Carbon Silicon t= 150.00000
19:48:17:WU02:FS02:0x15:Client config unavailable.
19:48:17:WU02:FS02:0x15:Starting GUI Server
19:48:18:4:127.0.0.1:New Web connection
19:48:21:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Using Gromacs checkpoints
19:48:21:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Mapping NT from 4 to 4
19:48:21:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Resuming from checkpoint
19:48:21:WU01:FS01:0x11:Will resume from checkpoint file
19:48:21:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Verified 03/wudata_01.log
19:48:21:WU01:FS01:0x11:Tpr hash 01/wudata_01.tpr:  1737229911 1293727766 1744778154 1721106391 2750537004
19:48:21:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Verified 03/wudata_01.trr
19:48:21:WU01:FS01:0x11:
19:48:21:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Verified 03/wudata_01.xtc
19:48:21:WU01:FS01:0x11:Calling fah_main args: 14 usage=100
19:48:21:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Verified 03/wudata_01.edr
19:48:21:WU01:FS01:0x11:
19:48:21:WU03:FS03:0xa4:Completed 183810 out of 2000000 steps  (9%)
19:48:21:WU04:FS00:0x11:Will resume from checkpoint file
19:48:21:WU04:FS00:0x11:Tpr hash 04/wudata_01.tpr:  1606094012 2816375745 2190701999 3631165253 2624419918
19:48:21:WU04:FS00:0x11:
19:48:21:WU04:FS00:0x11:Calling fah_main args: 14 usage=100
19:48:21:WU04:FS00:0x11:
19:48:22:WU01:FS01:0x11:Working on Protein
19:48:22:WU04:FS00:0x11:Working on Protein
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:Client config unavailable.
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:Resuming from checkpoint
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:fcCheckPointResume: retreived and current tpr file hash:
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:   0   1737229911   1737229911
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:   1   1293727766   1293727766
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:   2   1744778154   1744778154
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:   3   1721106391   1721106391
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:   4   2750537004   2750537004
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:fcCheckPointResume: file hashes same.
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:fcCheckPointResume: state restored.
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:Verified 01/wudata_01.log
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:Verified 01/wudata_01.edr
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:Verified 01/wudata_01.xtc
19:48:23:WU01:FS01:0x11:Completed 79%
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:Client config unavailable.
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:Starting GUI Server
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:Resuming from checkpoint
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:fcCheckPointResume: retreived and current tpr file hash:
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:   0   1606094012   1606094012
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:   1   2816375745   2816375745
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:   2   2190701999   2190701999
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:   3   3631165253   3631165253
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:   4   2624419918   2624419918
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:fcCheckPointResume: file hashes same.
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:fcCheckPointResume: state restored.
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:Verified 04/wudata_01.log
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:Verified 04/wudata_01.edr
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:Verified 04/wudata_01.xtc
19:48:23:WU04:FS00:0x11:Completed 16%
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Re: QuadroFX3800 & 9800GT folds but unknown

Postby bruce » Mon May 06, 2013 5:44 am

You have three whitelisted GPUs, two of which are the oldest support NVidia type (commonly called G80-series, though it's more than just that) and one which is a newer NV type called Fermi. All three should fold PROVIDED the client knows which one is which. Unfortunately when you mix two types, the V7 client is known to number them differently than expected and there's a good chance you're assigning Fermi class WUs to one of the G80s and vice-versa. To fix this, you have to manually change the cuda-index values.

Here's a post from one of several people who have fixed this sort of problem: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=24186&p=241818#p241818
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Re: QuadroFX3800 & 9800GT folds but unknown

Postby bambihunter » Mon May 06, 2013 9:16 am

I am pretty sure I have tried these by themselves in a system, but it could perhaps have still had an old config. I have read your posts Bruce many times and greatly respect both yours and 7im's advice so I will give that a try but it will probably be next weekend. Do you think it is causing any detrimental effects for FAH? I don't want to be uploading junk, if it would be better I could just shut these down for now. In fact, I have another of the 430's I could swap one of them for.

Along the same topic, does anyone have a FULL flag list for v7? I found this https://fah-web.stanford.edu/projects/FAHClient/wiki/FahControl#Advanced and it seems to cover most, but doesn't seem to be all. I used to be decent with v6 command-line options but have been only barely minimum folding for the last few years.
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Re: QuadroFX3800 & 9800GT folds but unknown

Postby PantherX » Mon May 06, 2013 11:24 am

In most cases, there are data verification/checking going-on so any error should be caught pretty early. However, if you are worried, here is a simple test you can do:

1) Pause all GPU Slots
2) Start GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/old/)
3) Select the GPU Quadro FX 3800 in GPU-Z and go to the Sensors tab
4) Fold the corresponding GPU Slot in FAHContrl by right-clicking the slot 00: gpu:0:GT200GL [Quadro FX 3800] and selecting fold from the menu
5) If the Sensor's tab report a GPU Usage of 90% or higher, than it would seem that it mapped correctly
6) Pause that GPU Slot
7) Repeat step 3 to step 6 for your other GPUs
8) If everything matches, fah has configured everything correctly so start each slot one after another and verify it from GPU-Z

You can swap your 430 with the lowest performing GPU. I think it might be the Quadro but you can check it from the PPD values.

If you want to get all the client options, what you can do is to change the verbosity level from the default of 3 to 5 and it prints all the values in the log file. Do note that we recommend the default of 3 as it is easier to troubleshoot.
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Re: QuadroFX3800 & 9800GT folds but unknown

Postby 7im » Tue May 07, 2013 8:28 pm

While the client is not running you can run "fahclient.exe --help" from a command line to get the list of all client switches. This list is different than the verbosity 5 option list, and is more like the list we have used for previous clients. However, except for a few rare exceptions (client-type, next unit %) all the default values are the recommended values.
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