Any problems with nacl lately? Low points

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Any problems with nacl lately? Low points

Postby Theodore » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:34 am

I had some low points on my PC lately.
Nacl showing 2k instead of 6, 11, or 13k points I'm getting normally on my PCs.
Affected projects are 142??, and 9020.

At first I thought I fried my CPU, but now it's happening on my other PCs as well.
Not all wus are slow. Some work normal. Some show very low PPD.
Second, I thought perhaps Windows is running updates, but no, the problem persists a few hours and a day later.

Also, upon startup, nacl mentioned I needed to enable flags, but the flag option wasn't present on my Google chrome anymore.
I just refreshed the window 3 or 4 times, and it started working again, without flag.
These CPUs have been folding for nearly half a year, sometimes days on end. The cases don't get hotter than perhaps 40c, so I don't think the hardware is broken, though I don't discount the possibility.
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Re: Any problems with nacl lately? Low points

Postby bruce » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:35 pm

There are several possiblities

1) Yes, the points have been reduced, but I'm not sure that is that significant.
2) google has reported that they are indending to drop support for pNACL. I don't know if anything changed.
3) Nacl does not earn bonus points. It never has. You'd be better off installing FAHClient.
4) Somebody tested nacl will a system with lots of CPU threads and determined that there are some problems with some projects if a large number of threads are expected. If you're running on a single CPU with- say 12 threads -- I doubt there has been any change. If you're trying to use it with-- say 64 threads, then nacl is NOT for you.
5) It might be something else.

Regarding #4, I don't know the actual numbers, but the projects assigned by nacl are small and should be something a person is expected to complete while they're using a shared walk-up computer in a hotel or a library. Bigger projects, earning more points, are assigned to FAHClient, and you should be using it.
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Re: Any problems with nacl lately? Low points

Postby MeeLee » Wed May 01, 2019 12:52 am

I also noticed a drop in points across the board on my pcs.
It's definitely dropped a lot of points, and the WUs are much larger.
So, less WUs per day, and MUCH less points!
Here are some points for reference:

Unit 1, folding occasionally:
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Day      Points   WUs
04.30.19   252   8
04.29.19   147   4
04.28.19   567   15
04.27.19   777   19
04.26.19   1,344   35
04.25.19   42   1
04.24.19   567   14
04.23.19   1,449   36
04.22.19   777   21
04.21.19   1,134   28


Unit 2 folding continuously:
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Day      Points   WUs
04.30.19   672   19
04.29.19   420   11
04.28.19   3,192   85
04.27.19   4,662   119
04.26.19   4,746   123
04.25.19   84   2
04.24.19   2,310   60
04.23.19   4,830   124
04.22.19   4,809   122
04.21.19   4,725   123
04.20.19   4,767   122
04.19.19   4,641   120


Aside from Thursday the 25th, when my systems are down, there's been a significant decrease in the past 2 days!
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Re: Any problems with nacl lately? Low points

Postby bruce » Wed May 01, 2019 5:02 am

@MeeLee You really need to install the software from https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/ instead of using Chrome/Nacl.
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Re: Any problems with nacl lately? Low points

Postby MeeLee » Fri May 03, 2019 11:39 am

I know, and I have on those computers I can.
If NaCl will be discontinued, only 1% of my total points will be affected.
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