Bonus Qualification

[weedacres]

If I have to install a new client on an existing machine that is bonus qualified, do I have to go through the 10 wu qualification all over again?

For example, from reading kasson's SMP2 announcement it appears that the A2's are going to be extinct (or perhaps they already are?). If that's the case it would seem that those of us running VmWare/Linux clients should start running the windows client. Or it I don't, I might migrate to a different version of Linux. Will we have to go through the qualification again?

I'm guessing the a qualified machine is identified by the User ID and the Passkey. Wouldn't the User ID change during a re-install?

Thanks

[Tobit]

The passkey is associated with the name you fold with (user id). You should be using the same name/passkey on all of your clients so that all of your clients are qualified.

[weedacres]

The passkey is associated with the name you fold with (user id). You should be using the same name/passkey on all of your clients so that all of your clients are qualified.

I'm not sure that is correct.

User ID is different than User Name. From what I can see, each OS on a PC has a unique User ID (one of mine is 70A3EE5058F9C897) which is assigned during -config. My windows gpu clients all have the same User ID on a given machine, while a different User ID is assigned on the VMWare/Linux client on that same machine. I run several User Names belonging to one Team.

[ikerekes]

The passkey is associated with the name you fold with (user id). You should be using the same name/passkey on all of your clients so that all of your clients are qualified.

I'm not sure that is correct.

User ID is different than User Name. From what I can see, each OS on a PC has a unique User ID (one of mine is 70A3EE5058F9C897) which is assigned during -config. My windows gpu clients all have the same User ID on a given machine, while a different User ID is assigned on the VMWare/Linux client on that same machine. I run several User Names belonging to one Team.

see the discussion in this thread http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13056

Maybe it is time somebody in the know gave some clarification?

[^w^ing]

the passkey is bound to the username + email combination.

[PennyPincherP]

The passkey allows you to get bigadv WU's. The UserID allows bonus qualification after 80% deadline completion of 10 WU's.

Edit by Mod:
This isn't correct.

1) UserID is not UserName
2) With a passkey, the bigadv get a bonus.
3) When your passkey has been qualified (10 WUs and 80%) you get a bonus for SMP2.

[Hyperlife]

From what I've seen, the original plan for the bonus WU system was tied solely to the passkey. I haven't seen anything official from Pande that would contradict this, though it may have changed without notice to us.

[DonMarkoni]

IMO, they were very clear:

Bonus point formula
Briefly summarizing our bonus formula, the bonus is applied for users who have a passkey, have successfully returned at least 10 bonus-eligible WU's, successfully return >=80% of assigned WU's, and return the WU before the preferred deadline. Bonus points do not apply to partial returns.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=13039

[7im]

To restate same and answer the opening question, qualification is tied to the passkey alone. Once a passkey is qualifed, you could use it on a new machine with a new client, with any user name, on any team, and the first work unit that was eligible for a bonus that is returned before the deadline would receive a bonus.

[weedacres]

To restate same and answer the opening question, qualification is tied to the passkey alone. Once a passkey is qualifed, you could use it on a new machine with a new client, with any user name, on any team, and the first work unit that was eligible for a bonus that is returned before the deadline would receive a bonus.

Thank you 7im. That answers my question.

[7im]

To restate same and answer the opening question, qualification is tied to the passkey alone. Once a passkey is qualifed, you could use it on a new machine with a new client, with any user name, on any team, and the first work unit that was eligible for a bonus that is returned before the deadline would receive a bonus.

Correction: The bonus qualification is tied to BOTH the fah user name AND the passkey as a combination.

If you fold with different user names, but the same passkey, each user name will need to complete the 10 WUs, etc.

Also, A1 work units do not count.

I received clarification on these issues today. Sorry.

[Grandpa_01]

Also, A1 work units do not count.

I received clarification on these issues today. Sorry.

I guess I get to join that club I thought the a1's counted.

[weedacres]

The real problem here is the lack of clear documentation on the passkey system.
I'm sure what is available is very clear to those who wrote it (or know how it works), but for someone trying to implement passkeys for multiple clients for the first time it is not. There has been too much wasted effort, not to mention frustration, spent on this subject.
Perhaps it's time for a very knowledgeable person to write a faq or sticky on this subject.

[ikerekes]

I am currently running on 5 client a3 wu's. 3 of the clients (the 3 quads) already run more than 10 units. I still don't seem to be credited with any of the bonus points. Since I am returning between 50 and 70 work units a day, I have no way to tell, at any given 2 hour reporting period, which wu been credited and with what points.
To make the situation more complicated, some hardware issue in one of my E5200 deleted 3 wu's making the first 10 wu's unqualified (80% rule).
When the counting starts back, after u lose your qualified status?
How you can avoid a3 wu's (I know officially the -advmethods, but I took it out in 2 of my duo's, but they continue to chug along with a3's completing them in 2 and a half day, when they completed the a2's in 25-26 hours).
I know it would be a major rework, but it would be nice if we would get back some feedback on every WU's how much point it was credited with. Even if the feedback is not guaranty that the points actually been credited (as with the P2677 wu's on the weekend).

[ChelseaOilman]

I still don't seem to be credited with any of the bonus points.

Your getting the bonus on your A3 WUs.

Last credit Last returned WU Proj Run Clone Gen
1470.16 2010-01-28 20:13:21 6012 0 464 2
484 2010-01-28 20:13:21 6015 0 108 3 <--- probably a slow machine, or doesn't run 24/7
2073.94 2010-01-28 22:13:05 6015 0 39 7
2526.61 2010-01-28 22:13:09 6021 0 84 0
1461.23 2010-01-29 04:14:55 6012 0 72 87
2569.45 2010-01-29 04:15:01 6021 0 38 6

I know it would be a major rework, but it would be nice if we would get back some feedback on every WU's how much point it was credited with.

Nothing like that is even possible until the new stats server is up.