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by **Blue_Bubble** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:05 am

For the last 2 or 3 days I have noticed that all my 0xA4 work units complete with a credit estimate of a mere 207.00 points (appears to be a constant regardless of how quickly or slowly they run).

Most of these work units would have been rated at 1500 to 1600 previously.

What has happened ?

by **JimboPalmer** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:14 am

It may be related to this issue. If you check which server your issue has, you can know.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31698

by **Blue_Bubble** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:05 am

Thanks Jimbo, I had actually seen that thread. The server in that thread is 128.252.203.9 (islay.seas.wustl.edu).

The server my work units are uploading to is 171.67.108.58 (vspd4.stanford.edu).

Nevertheless, I sure am hoping it's the same issue; my daily points score will plummet if the work unit credits are downgraded

by **Joe_H** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:50 pm

Your problem might be related to the one reported for the other server, or not. Without any information on which WU's you have turned in recently that did not get the bonus points, or what username you fold under, I can not tell if this is the problem. But 207 is the base credit for the projects still running on this server and using the A4 core

As for "downgraded", no the A4 WU's hove not been reduced in credit or removed from the QRB.

by **Blue_Bubble** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:02 pm

ok, it's definitely a problem at 171.67.108.158:

My folding username is Blue_Bubble

Here's a snippet from a very recent work unit :

Code: Select all: 10:09:26:WU00:FS00:Connecting to 155.247.166.219:8080 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:Running FahCore: /usr/bin/FAHCoreWrapper "/Library/Application Support/FAHClient/cores/cores.foldingathome.org/OSX/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4" -dir 01 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 303 -checkpoint 30 -np 4 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 29381 10:09:26:Started thread 140 on PID 303 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:Core PID:29382 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:FahCore 0xa4 started 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4: 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:*------------------------------* 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs Core 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Thu Feb 10 09:46:40 PST 2011) 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4: 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations... 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Created dyn 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Files status OK 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Expanded 826036 -> 1403472 (decompressed 169.9 percent) 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=826036 data_size=1403472, decompressed_data_size=1403472 diff=0 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Digital signature verified 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4: 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Project: 9037 (Run 591, Clone 0, Gen 2211) 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4: 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Assembly optimizations on if available. 10:09:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Entering M.D. 10:09:32:WU00:FS00:Upload 15.98% 10:09:32:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Mapping NT from 4 to 4 10:09:34:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%) 10:09:39:WU00:FS00:Upload 25.97% 10:09:45:WU00:FS00:Upload 39.96% 10:09:51:WU00:FS00:Upload 59.94% 10:09:57:WU00:FS00:Upload 75.93% 10:10:03:WU00:FS00:Upload 95.91% 10:10:05:WU00:FS00:Upload complete 10:10:07:WU00:FS00:Server responded WORK_ACK (400) 10:10:07:WU00:FS00:Final credit estimate, 11340.00 points 10:10:07:WU00:FS00:Cleaning up 10:11:10:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%) 10:12:36:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%) 10:14:03:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%) 10:15:29:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%) 10:17:09:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps (5%) 10:19:15:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps (6%) 10:20:43:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 17500 out of 250000 steps (7%) 10:22:11:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 20000 out of 250000 steps (8%) 10:23:39:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 22500 out of 250000 steps (9%) 10:25:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 25000 out of 250000 steps (10%) 10:26:35:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 27500 out of 250000 steps (11%) 10:28:03:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 30000 out of 250000 steps (12%) 10:29:30:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 32500 out of 250000 steps (13%) 10:30:57:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 35000 out of 250000 steps (14%) 10:32:25:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 37500 out of 250000 steps (15%) 10:33:53:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 40000 out of 250000 steps (16%) 10:35:21:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 42500 out of 250000 steps (17%) 10:36:50:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 45000 out of 250000 steps (18%) 10:38:18:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 47500 out of 250000 steps (19%) 10:39:46:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 50000 out of 250000 steps (20%) 10:41:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 52500 out of 250000 steps (21%) 10:42:41:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 55000 out of 250000 steps (22%) 10:44:11:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 57500 out of 250000 steps (23%) 10:45:39:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 60000 out of 250000 steps (24%) 10:47:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 62500 out of 250000 steps (25%) 10:48:36:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 65000 out of 250000 steps (26%) 10:50:03:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 67500 out of 250000 steps (27%) 10:51:30:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 70000 out of 250000 steps (28%) 10:52:58:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 72500 out of 250000 steps (29%) 10:54:27:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 75000 out of 250000 steps (30%) 10:55:54:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 77500 out of 250000 steps (31%) 10:57:21:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 80000 out of 250000 steps (32%) 10:58:50:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 82500 out of 250000 steps (33%) 11:00:18:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 85000 out of 250000 steps (34%) 11:01:46:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 87500 out of 250000 steps (35%) ******************************* Date: 2019-07-04 ******************************* 11:03:13:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 90000 out of 250000 steps (36%) 11:04:40:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 92500 out of 250000 steps (37%) 11:06:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 95000 out of 250000 steps (38%) 11:07:34:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 97500 out of 250000 steps (39%) 11:09:03:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 100000 out of 250000 steps (40%) 11:10:30:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 102500 out of 250000 steps (41%) 11:11:58:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 105000 out of 250000 steps (42%) 11:13:25:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 107500 out of 250000 steps (43%) 11:14:52:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 110000 out of 250000 steps (44%) 11:16:19:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 112500 out of 250000 steps (45%) 11:17:47:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 115000 out of 250000 steps (46%) 11:19:14:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 117500 out of 250000 steps (47%) 11:20:40:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 120000 out of 250000 steps (48%) 11:22:07:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 122500 out of 250000 steps (49%) 11:23:33:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 125000 out of 250000 steps (50%) 11:25:00:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 127500 out of 250000 steps (51%) 11:26:27:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 130000 out of 250000 steps (52%) 11:27:54:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 132500 out of 250000 steps (53%) 11:29:21:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 135000 out of 250000 steps (54%) 11:30:48:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 137500 out of 250000 steps (55%) 11:32:16:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 140000 out of 250000 steps (56%) 11:33:43:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 142500 out of 250000 steps (57%) 11:35:11:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 145000 out of 250000 steps (58%) 11:36:38:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 147500 out of 250000 steps (59%) 11:38:05:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 150000 out of 250000 steps (60%) 11:39:32:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 152500 out of 250000 steps (61%) 11:40:59:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 155000 out of 250000 steps (62%) 11:42:26:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 157500 out of 250000 steps (63%) 11:43:55:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 160000 out of 250000 steps (64%) 11:45:22:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 162500 out of 250000 steps (65%) 11:46:49:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 165000 out of 250000 steps (66%) 11:48:16:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 167500 out of 250000 steps (67%) 11:49:44:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 170000 out of 250000 steps (68%) 11:51:11:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 172500 out of 250000 steps (69%) 11:52:39:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 175000 out of 250000 steps (70%) 11:54:06:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 177500 out of 250000 steps (71%) 11:55:33:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 180000 out of 250000 steps (72%) 11:57:00:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 182500 out of 250000 steps (73%) 11:58:27:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 185000 out of 250000 steps (74%) 11:59:54:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 187500 out of 250000 steps (75%) 12:01:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 190000 out of 250000 steps (76%) 12:02:46:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 192500 out of 250000 steps (77%) 12:04:14:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 195000 out of 250000 steps (78%) 12:05:40:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 197500 out of 250000 steps (79%) 12:07:08:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 200000 out of 250000 steps (80%) 12:08:35:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 202500 out of 250000 steps (81%) 12:10:02:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 205000 out of 250000 steps (82%) 12:11:29:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 207500 out of 250000 steps (83%) 12:12:56:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 210000 out of 250000 steps (84%) 12:14:23:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 212500 out of 250000 steps (85%) 12:15:50:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 215000 out of 250000 steps (86%) 12:17:17:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 217500 out of 250000 steps (87%) 12:18:44:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 220000 out of 250000 steps (88%) 12:20:11:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 222500 out of 250000 steps (89%) 12:21:38:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 225000 out of 250000 steps (90%) 12:23:05:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 227500 out of 250000 steps (91%) 12:24:33:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 230000 out of 250000 steps (92%) 12:25:59:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 232500 out of 250000 steps (93%) 12:27:27:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 235000 out of 250000 steps (94%) 12:28:54:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 237500 out of 250000 steps (95%) 12:30:21:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 240000 out of 250000 steps (96%) 12:31:48:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 242500 out of 250000 steps (97%) 12:33:15:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 245000 out of 250000 steps (98%) 12:34:42:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 247500 out of 250000 steps (99%) 12:34:42:WU00:FS00:Connecting to 65.254.110.245:8080 12:34:44:WU00:FS00:Assigned to work server 171.67.108.158 12:34:44:WU00:FS00:Requesting new work unit for slot 00: RUNNING cpu:4 from 171.67.108.158 12:34:44:WU00:FS00:Connecting to 171.67.108.158:8080 12:34:48:WU00:FS00:Downloading 802.32KiB 12:34:48:WU00:FS00:Download complete 12:34:50:WU00:FS00:Received Unit: id:00 state:DOWNLOAD error:NO_ERROR project:9033 run:914 clone:1 gen:2160 core:0xa4 unit:0x00000958ab436c9e569830a5cedda27c 12:36:09:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps (100%) 12:36:10:WU01:FS00:0xa4:DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000 12:36:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4: 12:36:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Finished Work Unit: 12:36:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Reading up to 811560 from "01/wudata_01.trr": Read 811560 12:36:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4:trr file hash check passed. 12:36:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Reading up to 746192 from "01/wudata_01.xtc": Read 746192 12:36:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4:xtc file hash check passed. 12:36:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4:edr file hash check passed. 12:36:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4:logfile size: 22676 12:36:20:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Leaving Run 12:36:25:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Writing 1582916 bytes of core data to disk... 12:36:25:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Done: 1582404 -> 1538085 (compressed to 97.1 percent) 12:36:25:WU01:FS00:0xa4: ... Done. 12:36:25:WU01:FS00:0xa4:- Shutting down core 12:36:25:WU01:FS00:0xa4: 12:36:25:WU01:FS00:0xa4:Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT 12:36:26:WU01:FS00:FahCore returned: FINISHED_UNIT (100 = 0x64) 12:36:26:WU01:FS00:Sending unit results: id:01 state:SEND error:NO_ERROR project:9037 run:591 clone:0 gen:2211 core:0xa4 unit:0x00000981ab436c9e56982afaf55d37e6 12:36:26:WU01:FS00:Uploading 1.47MiB to 171.67.108.158 12:36:26:WU00:FS00:Starting 12:36:26:WU01:FS00:Connecting to 171.67.108.158:8080 12:36:26:WU00:FS00:Running FahCore: /usr/bin/FAHCoreWrapper "/Library/Application Support/FAHClient/cores/cores.foldingathome.org/OSX/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4" -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 303 -checkpoint 30 -np 4 12:36:26:WU00:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 29546 12:36:26:Started thread 141 on PID 303 12:36:26:WU00:FS00:Core PID:29547 12:36:26:WU00:FS00:FahCore 0xa4 started 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4: 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:*------------------------------* 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs Core 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Thu Feb 10 09:46:40 PST 2011) 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4: 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations... 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Created dyn 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Files status OK 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Expanded 821065 -> 1401332 (decompressed 170.6 percent) 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=821065 data_size=1401332, decompressed_data_size=1401332 diff=0 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:- Digital signature verified 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4: 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Project: 9033 (Run 914, Clone 1, Gen 2160) 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4: 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Assembly optimizations on if available. 12:36:27:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Entering M.D. 12:36:32:WU01:FS00:Upload 59.63% 12:36:33:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Mapping NT from 4 to 4 12:36:33:WU00:FS00:0xa4:Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%) 12:36:35:WU01:FS00:Upload complete 12:36:37:WU01:FS00:Server responded WORK_ACK (400) 12:36:37:WU01:FS00:Final credit estimate, 207.00 points 12:36:37:WU01:FS00:Cleaning up

by **bruce** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:21 pm

FYI, there have recently been some updates to the code running on FAH's servers. I suspect that this is essentially a bug-report associated with those updates. As Joe_H says, there has been no intentional reduction in the points of any active project. If this is, in fact, a bug, FAH will most likely revise any credits to correct any errors accumulated while the bug was present. Most likely, all credit corrections will happen during the same hour, so there may be a time when everybody gets a huge increase in their total points. Such re-crediting often isn't immediate but FAH has very good about correcting their errors. Before that happens, the bug will be corrected so folks will first start getting bonus point again and later will receive the corrections retroactively. -- so that there is a specific beginning and ending time that that the corrections must cover.

by **Blue_Bubble** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:58 pm

Thanks bruce

by **TomJohnson** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:03 am

For Bruce - Put me down for this same daily WU points drop off since June 30th. It appears that we are only receiving the WU's Base Credit Value since that time - as can be seen at this URL - https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com ... s=&u=33541. Refer to graph showing points drop off. I should be averaging 500,000 PPD processing around 73 WUs per day.

by **bruce** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:10 pm

TomJohnson wrote:Put me down for this same daily WU points drop off since June 30th

There's no need for additional confirmation that the server(s) have a problem. When somebody gets time to manually re-credit the missing points, they'll do it for everybody.

by **Peter Potrowl** » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:05 pm

Hi!

Any news on this subject? Thanks in advance.

Best regards

by **JimboPalmer** » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:23 pm

I am not sure what we can tell you.

This is not a science based problem, just a temporary points problem. The work is getting done, nat all the points are being credited at this time.

In North America, Universities are on minimum staffing for the summer.

I expect that the first indication they are working on the issue will be the influx of backed up points, over days.

If we are lucky, after that, they will explain what went wrong.

[I am just a donor, but I have lived through many similar point gaps.]

by **bruce** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:07 pm

Based on past history, there will be two steps.
!) The projects that are currently earning reduced points will start getting bonuses again (going forward).
2) The points will be adjusted retroactively st some later time. This is a manual operation, also requiring a specialist's time so it's not coordinated with step 1. If several servers are involved, it will take longer. If it's just one, they may all happen at the same time.
3) There will probably not be an official explanation.

The only facts that might be interesting is a list of servers that are involved.

Another interesting set of facts is that the official code on the servers is being updated (See https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats) This happens one server at a time, at the convenience of the server's owner although it would be expedited if the problem had an impact on the production of science. [It was announced elsewhere that FAH's infrastructure was being updated.] All this might or might not be related to the bonus crediting ... but my GUESS is that it probably does. The points crediting procedure does involve intra-server communications.

by **Peter Potrowl** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:07 pm

It has been more than two months now... Do we even know if some official people at F@H are aware if this issue?

by **bruce** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:47 pm

Strange: The projects in the 8000-9999 range were "completed{ some time ago but FAH needed some additional data so some have been re-opened. Perhaps something was missed when they were re-added. I see you earned 207 points for Projects 9033 and 9037 which suggests that it is missing the bonus, but I can't confirm that at the moment because these projects are not listed on the psummary page.

I'll check with the folks who actually know the answer.

by **Peter Potrowl** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:54 pm

Hi Bruce,

I'll check with the folks who actually know the answer.

Did you get any answer? Regards

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