17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

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17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

Post by BobWilliams757 »

This project did hit beta and was there for a few days, then was released to FAH.

It's giving very high PPD returns.

https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/b ... _rtx_3090

About twice (or more) than average on a 3090. The 3070 about normal PPD.

My 1660 Super got crazy high PPD. 12.78m on about 82 watts.

I'm suspecting something is a bit strange on this project. I've only picked up the one, and the others were already on LAR when I looked.
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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

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RTX 4080 hits 133M PPD.
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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

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BobWilliams757 wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:53 pm RTX 4080 hits 133M PPD.
Are you actually getting those credits or is this a projection? Really looks like something amiss here.
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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

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All the ones on LAR are people other than me, so I can't speak for that.

But I got the 12.78M on my 1660 Super, and was credited as such, almost 222K points. Less than a half hour, 15 second TPF.

Going back on the Generation from mine, it appears everyone is getting huge numbers or base credit.


I could have contacted the researcher through here, but I didn't know if that was within forum rules.
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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

Post by Joe_H »

How many steps were reported for the WUs you saw from 17919? There have been bugs in the past where the WS would change the number of steps from the initial setting the WUs were benchmarked on.

The other possibility is that the size in atoms for this project is towards middle sized. Possibly processing on high end GPUs is pushing the bonus points farther up the exponential curve than usual.
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Joe,

250,000 steps. 103,824 atoms.


If we see something like this is the future, what's the preferred way to send up a flare? PM or email the researcher, or one of the admins, Beta members? I just assumed that the researchers don't want emails from regular folders on any frequent basis, and wasn't sure if making comment or note in the Announcements/Consortium section would draw the researchers notice, same for PM as I don't know if most of them check out the forum frequently.
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I got another one, same thing. I'm going to send an email to the researcher.
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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

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Can we have a snippet of the log with few frames folded of this project. Project RCG would be great too
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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

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Here you go....

This was the first one. The second I got performed in a similar manner. I had a different power limit set so the second one "only" returned about 11.7M PPD.


I did email the researcher through the forum here, but haven't gotten any type of response.

And I'm sure the number of GPU's shown to have run it on LARS has grown some since I got the second one. There was no 1660 Super on that site that had run it, and it wasn't one of mine logged on the site.

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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

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From log I can see that WU is 5x smaller than it is supposed to be. Researcher is enjoying a weekend, so it should be fixed on Monday. These things happen from time to time with misconfigured projects. Until then enjoy extra PPD :)
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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

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Well I figured something was wrong when I got 12+M PPD on my 1660. :lol:

I did get another finally and got points in line with normal. And it looks like the averages for many GPUs on LAR are moving down, so hopefully all of them are fixed now. Thanks for the help.


BUT.... as asked above, what's the best way to send up a flare? Here, Discord, PM a beta tester, email the researcher? Just making sure it goes to whoever can get the attention of the proper person the quickest.
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Post here and include enough of the log to show things like number of steps. If I or the other mods see some pattern we will escalate it to the researchers. Some of the internal and beta testers also watch posts here. In this case the day after you posted with info from your log muziqaz read it and compared it with past runs he had processed and notified the researcher about the wrong number of steps. That is a bug in the project settings on the server. There are other causes of points being out of whack, sometimes it takes a few different examples to point towards the correction.
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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

Post by muziqaz »

If you are on Discord, you can post there too. I tend to be on Discord more often than here. And push notification nature of the app is easier to react to especially if one is not near the PC.
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Re: 17919 - Did one slip through the cracks?

Post by BobWilliams757 »

Works for me. So few slip through that it's never really an issue these days.
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